LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know 536 Replies latest jw friends

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  You Know

  I can't believe this stupid thread still exists. I figured You Know would want this thread to die before everybody remembered his stupid bet.

  Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events or have been in a coma or something, but FYI: the United States is in a state of war. They have called up the army reserves and are preparing a massive military operation aimed at eliminating terrorists as well as entire nations that support them. In the past week the stock markets had their worst week since the Great Depression. There is great anxiety and uncertainty among all the nations on the planet. That makes my proposed "little wager" with apostates by far the most relevant post on the board. / You Know
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  ballistic

  To you know,
  I thought the witnesses were waiting for a declaration of peace prior to end, not a declaration of war.
  I fail to see what your predictions have of relevance to the end of the world.

  I think this is another example of Jehovah's Witnesses hedging their bets and wanting to have their cake while eating it.
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  outsider_looking_in

  To you know,
  When all your predictions come to nothing will you post a thread on this board appologising for getting it wrong?
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  You Know

  Why do you hide your trader side from your own organization?

  I am not a trader. Years ago I did some trading, baseball cards and that kind of thing, but I have not dabbled in the markets, if that's what you mean.

  What is your quantitative definition of a collapse?

  I don't need a "quantitative definition of a collapse." My wager said that the financial system would be in a panic. How can you quantify a panic? I don't think it has reached that state yet, but it's getting there. It should be obvious when it occurs so that assigning some dollar amount to it at this point is absurd.

  I fail to see what your predictions have of relevance to the end of the world.

  I believe you.

  If You Know was really a true prophet he would let us know when the Boston Red Sox will finally win a World Series again.

  I can tell you right now that they will never win another World Series ever again.

  When all your predictions come to nothing will you post a thread on this board appologising for getting it wrong?

  No. But if they some how get out of this mess I will pay the board 100 bucks.

  / You Know
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  jayhawk1

  I thought that Jehovah would release his four winds, locusts, water turning to blood and other stuff that Revelation speaks of. My bible does not say anything about the Taliban, and the Stock Market. The Stock Market will rebound, it always does. So what if it lost 10% of it's value in one week. What happened in New York City is terrible to say the least, but in the big picture the world is still here and life will continue.

  "Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford
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  You Know

  I thought that Jehovah would release his four winds, locusts, water turning to blood and other stuff that Revelation speaks of. My bible does not say anything about the Taliban, and the Stock Market.

  The Bible says that "no wicked ones at all will understand." It also says that Jehovah's judgments are concealed from even his loyal ones until such time as he reveals what he has held in reserve. That means that going into the world's final tumult that even Jehovah's Witnesses have unrealistic deadend expectations. Jehovah has it set up so that the only way it will be possible to bridge the gap between the reality that will soon present itself and our own assumptions of what the future supposedly holds is by our individual faith. It goes without saying that if the godly man is going to be saved only by great difficulty that the faithless apostate won't have a chance.

  The Stock Market will rebound, it always does. So what if it lost 10% of it's value in one week. What happened in New York City is terrible to say the least, but in the big picture the world is still here and life will continue.

  Did you know that it took 30 years for the stock market to recover from the 1929 crash? The world situation is much more perilous than at any previous time. Besides the stock market is only the tip of a massive speculative debt based mountain. Because most analysts naturally assume, as do you, that business will always go on as normal, enormous bets have been placed based on the assumption of continued stability. But look what happened back in 1998 when Russia defaulted on its debt. It nearly brought the system down. The speculations of bond, currency, and equity traders are based upon computer models that take into account various financial gyrations that occur in cycles and they simply don't allow for things like war and terrorist attacks and systemic shocks like debt default. / You Know
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  Trilobite

  You Know,

  : Did you know that it took 30 years for the stock market to recover from the 1929 crash?

  People tend to follow the overall market (DOW etc) and ignore the fact that the indexes are re-balanced periodically so as to eliminate the companies that fail. This puts a much rosier picture on everything; in the very long run indexes can, essentially, only go up. However, they leave in their wake thousands of blown out buy-and-holders who held companies that went bust. In that light things were much worse earlier this century than even You Know seems to realize. God didn' step in then, and he won't do so now.

  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see things get much worse. The rally we saw earlier this year is quite comparable to the "sucker's rally" of 1930. People are still talking about a "bottom" which implies that we are nowhere near one.

  No one knows where this will lead, least of all You Know, who imagines that a religion that routinely lies to its flock somehow has, or at one time had, the truth. In reality Robert is infatuated by the vivid WTS doom and gloom scenarios that were pushed by Rutherford and Fred Franz. His congentital antipathy for humanity, the buzz he gets from seeing masses of other people suffer, and his downright disgusting "personality" make him a natural Dub. His big complaint with the WTS right now is that it has gone soft.

  Perversely, if Boobie's finnacial predictions actually do come to pass then, as the song says "Robert gonna be the first to go." The profits he made from trading his baseball cards won't go far in a world of hyperinflation. So, better hang on to your $100.00 Robert. You'll need it.

  T.
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  bjc2012

  You Know,

  I wonder if you could make a comment on the following information I posted to you originally on 9/20/01 on this thread.

  I would be curious to know your opinion on the WTS' take and lack of explanation of Daniel 11:41 and what if any will be its lasting effects upon this Holy Land.

  Here is the original question posed.

  Wouldn't it be more relevant to wager on whether or not Daniel 11:40,41 is about to be fulfilled, the explanation of these verses being conspicuously absent from the new Daniel book? Since you are saying there may be war, then you only have to add that after this war, the King of the North will invade JW land. -- posted 9/20/01

  Thanks.

  bjc
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  larc

  YK,

  In your very brief, vague comment on my request for a definition, you mentioned the work collapse, but then went on to discuss the word panic. As you correctly pointed out, the word panic has to do with emotions and is difficult to quantify. However, my question was with regard to the word collapse. You used the word again but again, you did not quantify it. Why not? You continue to be evasive, using words of doom and gloom without definition. As I have pointed out before, a work like collapse can be given an operational definition quite easily if you choose to. Why do you choose not to define this term?
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  Trilobite

  Larc,

  I think Robert is hoping against hope that he is not allowed to win his bet. He certainly doesn't want to lose it either. But imagine him having to write a letter to the Society explaining where the $100.00 came from, as he has promised he will do. I say let him, in fact, insist that he's won!

  T.