LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know 536 Replies latest jw friends

• 

  You Know

  Okay, here's my response: First off, I didn't lose my Little Wager. True, the financial system survived the Daisy Cutter that was dropped on Wall Street on the 11th, even though there was of course a controlled panic, that continues to this moment, that has caused the bankers to drastically cut the interest rates and by other means to pump liquidity into the system to prevent a freeze up.

  One interesting development is that the U.S. government stopped selling 30 year long bonds as well, which I suppose is analogous to Dylan's "fortune telling lady taking all her things inside," on Desolation Row. Predictably, The Plunge Protection Team swung into high gear to pump the stock market up to keep the massive dollar inflows from reversing course thereby causing a catastrophic collapse of the dollar. That was to be expected. Unquestionably, it has been a masterful effort on the part of the establishment to keep the system glued together, albeit with the duct tape and hay baling wire. They have for now staved off the avalanche of debt that hangs over us all.

  All this was made possible by the war footing that the United States has been in since the September 11th disaster. The government and its propaganda apparatus have convinced Americans that it is unpatriotic to redeem their mutual funds and that it is down right un-American not go out and buy something to keep the economy from collapsing. Obviously that act of desperation is some indication that the system is tottering on the brink of collapse. But, that is precisely why I stated in my little wager that the financial system would either be in a full-blown collapse or else a state of war would exist. Certainly no sane person would deny that the myth of America's economic invulnerability has been dissolved. So, while there was not a run on the dollar, the world is not the same as it was back on September 3rd when I first proposed the wager. America is at war. And that changes everything.

  As an aside, indicative of the sort of delusional wishful thinking on the part of our apostate ridiculers, the Canadian government came out yesterday with a forecast of renewed growth in the 1st quarter of 2002 with the caveat that it all depended on no further terrorist attacks, and laughably, they didn't think that any more attacks were likely. Whereas, the United States government said that there is a 100% chance of another attack on America.

  As regards my little wager, I won't hold the board to paying off, based on the little matter of the general anticipation of impending calamity based upon the ongoing war, for the simple reason that the board did not accept the terms of my bet. Every wager, in order for it to be legitimate, must have a counter-party in order to validate it. As it stands, unlike Samson's Philistine groomsmen who all took up the wager, there was no consensus on the part of the forum. At any rate, like Samson's wedding party, it appears as if a good time was had by all. Thanks for coming! LOL / You Know
• 

  NameWithheld

  And thus the Groundhog pokes his head out, sees the sun is still shining, decides to retreat to his little hole until next Oct ...

  See you then!
• 

  dubla

  yk-

  give me a break. that was a nice post of drivel, classic to your style, but you still did not respond to my PROOF.

  But, that is precisely why I stated in my little wager that the financial system would either be in a full-blown collapse or else a state of war would exist.

  i always have to repeat myself with you, dont i? you must have a learning disability. i already showed more than once that you absolutely did not wager with an either/or, but rather an and, meaning by all logical standards that both parts of your wager would have to come true. i realize you keep ignoring my proof, because you are unable to respond to it, and you, like most false prophets, are unwilling to concede defeat. you are a coward..........i will repost my PROOF here, although i am sure it will do no good.

  My proposed wager is this: I will wager 100 bucks, that before the end of the month of October that the present financial system will be in a full-blown panic crisis; and, if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war.

  once again, please note the AND directly following the semi-colon. the word and here signifies that both parts of the wager would have to come true in order for you to claim victory, surely you are intelligent enough to understand this (maybe im overestimating you?). both parts being:

  1. that by the end of october the present financial system would be in a full-blown panic crisis.......(this is where the semi-colon and subsequent and are located)

  2. that by the end of october the present financial system would be either in crash down mode or in a state of war.

  now, you have already conceded (in another thread that i would be happy to quote if youve forgotten), that part one has not come true, so in reality part two is really a mute point (though i have already shown through your own remarks that the financial system could not go to war anyhow).

  do you understand yet? i know you do yk, but you refuse to admit defeat, a trait of all cowards. "the way you claim victory with every post is really pathetic". remember those words? theyre yours; maybe you should listen to yourself once in awhile, because you truly are exactly what you accuse............PATHETIC.

  aa
• 

  D wiltshire

  You Know great escape:
  

  As regards my little wager, I won't hold the board to paying off, based on the little matter of the general anticipation of impending calamity based upon the ongoing war, for the simple reason that the board did not accept the terms of my bet. Every wager, in order for it to be legitimate, must have a counter-party in order to validate it. As it stands, unlike Samson's Philistine groomsmen who all took up the wager, there was no consensus on the part of the forum. At any rate, like Samson's wedding party, it appears as if a good time was had by all. Thanks for coming! LOL / You Know

  Houdini with an eye patch.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
• 

  You Know

  Jdubula is like some Trinitarian who clings to his King James' wording of John 1:1 and would have the rational person succumb to his delusion that the entire doctrine comes down to whether there is or isn't a letter "a" before the word God. You desperately want to prove me wrong and so you are down to analyzing and dissecting my sentence like it were Holy Scripture in hopes of re-interpreting them according to your wish. I am in fact honored that you would deem my very utterance worthy of such perverse scrutiny. After all, apostates are notorious for twisting Jehovah's word to suit their fancy, why should my frivolous writings fair any better from those whom the Scriptures describe as "perverts from the womb"? / You Know
• 

  dubla

  yk-

  p.s.......

  One interesting development is that the U.S. government stopped selling 30 year long bonds as well, which I suppose is analogous to Dylan's "fortune telling lady taking all her things inside," on Desolation Row. Predictably, The Plunge Protection Team ....

  LMAO. you are so ignorant yk; its truly hilarious. discontinuing the 30 yr. bond has absolutely ZERO to do with your little plunge protection team scenarios yk.......in fact, the plan to discontinue the 30 yr. bond has been in place since way before bush even took office, so your insinuation that its part of this doomsday crash of yours is just preposterous. if you kept up with the financial picture, the whole financial picture (not just the bear web sites that back up your ridiculous ravings).....you would have known about the 30 yr. bond plan years ago. your ignorance is matched only by your blind arrogance.

  aa
• 

  dubla

  You desperately want to prove me wrong and so you are down to analyzing and dissecting my sentence like it were Holy Scripture in hopes of re-interpreting them according to your wish.

  LOL...ive dissected nothing, just made the premise of your wager clear to all.

  i will give an example to show how ridiculous you are being with your copout yk.......

  lets say i bet you 100 dollars that the miami dolphins would beat the colts this weekend, and they would win by more than 20 pts. okay?

  monday comes, and the dolphins won, but the final was 13-10.

  did i win my bet? would you have to dissect my original wording to prove that you had actually won, due to the fact that the dolphins didnt cover the point spread i indicated?? of course not. it would be a clear loss on my part, and a clear win on yours. i bet you they would win, and win by more than 20.......therefore both parts must come true for me to claim the prize pot.

  understand how simple this is? lol, i doubt you do.

  aa
• 

  You Know

  LMAO. you are so ignorant yk; its truly hilarious. discontinuing the 30 yr. bond has absolutely ZERO to do with your little plunge protection team scenarios

  Something tells me that your laughter is all show because it is obvious to me that you don't know what you are talking about. You are a mere ridiculer and that is the way you try and deal with unpleasant facts that impinge upon your make-believe world. Your bluster and ridicule is simply your childish way of pretending that the system is going to go on. The truth is always far out of reach of the ridiculer. / You Know

  Click here for another view of the 30 year bond deabate.
  >>> http://www.zealllc.com/commentary/longbond.htm
• 

  dubla

  yk-

  Something tells me that your laughter is all show because it is obvious to me that you don't know what you are talking about.

  sigh, oh my favorite blubbering lunatic, it is you knows not of what he speaks. i like your link, that zeal newsletter is hilarious! it surprises me that there are people out there writing this stuff, but it doesnt surprise me that you are one of the recipients. have you ever seen the movie "conspiracy theory" with mel gibson? if not you should rent it, youd love it. i cant decide if youd be the guy mailing out the letters (gibson), or one of his subscribers.

  the plan to eliminate the 30 yr. bond was part of what we here in the office call "clintonomics". it was in fact part of clintons financial plan, and the original reasoning behind it was due to the projected government surplus. like i said before, if you actually watched the whole financial picture, youd know this already. its been very common knowledge to those of us in the business.......of course, we dont subscribe to the "zeal" newsletter here, so maybe our sources arent valid enough. LOL.

  aa
• 

  You Know

  i like your link, that zeal newsletter is hilarious!

  Of course you do. That's because you are a ridiculer. What else can you say when presented with facts that don't fit with your fantasy? A ridiculer laughs at truth with disdain and arrogance but is never able to succesfully refute the facts. If you could I am sure you would, but as it stands you are reduced to mere maniacal laughter.

  have you ever seen the movie "conspiracy theory" with mel gibson? if not you should rent it, youd love it.

  I saw the movie. It was pure propaganda, sort of like Refer Maddness, produced by the establishment in order to make anyone who believes in a conspiracy appear to be unbalanced and ridiculous. It is most predictable that you would buy into that sort of Hollywood nonsense and use it to discredit anyone who disagrees with the MSNBC version of reality that you have swallowed hook, line, and sinker. / You Know