John Doe, there is a saying that goes "What's good for the goose, is good for the gander." Does ethics have anything to do with it?
RICHIE RED ALERT
by RichieRich 324 Replies latest jw friends
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What-A-Coincidence
Wrong? Right? In who's eyes???? This is undebatable.
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So the elders will probably want it back right? Ok. Richie says he will try. Thus he says, it's not obtainable. Now what? What is the books value?
for all it's worth ... IMHO just give them the book back ... it's not worth the trouble ... you and JWD got what we wanted out of it ...
or maybe they could care less about the book.
Richie, do they want to the book back or what? and Would you be able to get it back???
-wac
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John Doe
I think you all are missing a point. I'm sure the wtbs loves for Richy to have that book. How easy is it for Witnesses to deny any facts presented when all they have to do is say to themselves, "He's a thief and a liar." When waging battles of honor, I'm of the opionon that one should not base their own eithics on the very things they're despising. Rather, we must rise above the wtbs morally if we're to win souls. No?
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lilybird
no.. I am saying the society is run by liars and con artists...
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toreador
I wouldn't give the book back if at all possible.I would say you dont know what they are talking about if they ask about it. There should be no secrets in Jehovahs pure organization. Give them a donation for the book. Ask if they are worried about cost of this alleged secret book you could give them about a buck for the printing cost or donation. There should no be secret information used by the elite in the organization that sets out rules for disfellowshipping other members anyway.Ask for two eyewitnesses who saw you take the book or tell them to shut the f up. Print outs from JWD does not count as they can easily be faked. If they try to tell you the importance of being honest; ask them why the WTS can be dishonest and give examples. Such as saying the bible students/JWS were looking forward to 1914 when Jesus would take over kingdom rule before 1914 came when in fact they were already teaching He had taken up rulership in 1874 up until about 1943. This is gross dishonesty. They are no one to talk about honesty.
Tor
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Gary1914
The Watchtower organization has always engaged in secretive undercover acts that makes what Richie did necessary for any truth about them to be exposed. In seeking the truth about the Watchtower organization we sometimes have no other recourse but to grab information when and where we see it.
I will admit that I too am guilty of pilfering information that I was not supposed to see. Curiosity just got the better of me and I wanted to see what was truly happening within the organization. I have found out some pretty disgusting stuff over the years. If the Watchtower were open about their dealings and did not have secret books and secret memos none of this would be necessary.
Big freaking deal! He took a book. A book that is made available for free. So what.
Let him without sin cast the first stone!
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Poztate
When waging battles of honor, I'm of the opionon that one should not base their own eithics on the very things they're despising. Rather, we must rise above the wtbs morally if we're to win souls. No?
Uh...You must be English and from the old school (sorry no offence) You believe in battles of honor and ethics. The WTS has never waged battles in this manner.They are SCUM and I will fight them any way I can. Ethics HAH and what is this BS about souls.Take it or leave it.
I want to grind the WT into the DIRT no matter what it takes....
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osmosis
A certain number of us would still be in the bOrg if not for "stolen" material such as this. This is exactly why the WTS wants so badly to keep it out of our hands. This kind of thing is a real threat to them, and they know it.
As for the ethics of it all.. stealing is wrong, that is true. but let's get real here, there simply is no comparison:
value of book to WTS = $1.00
value of a free mind = priceless
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Highlander
Uh...You must be English and from the old school (sorry no offence) You believe in battles of honor and ethics.
Any fight or battle is never honorable or ethical so we shall use any means possible to prevail.
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daniel-p
"Rather, we must rise above the wtbs morally if we're to win souls. No?"
No. First rise above intelectualy. Then you can worry about morals till the cows come home.