You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • spider
    spider

    Seven
    Greatly admiring you're wisdom.An example of how constructive critisism can be.

  • Naeblis
    Naeblis

    Once again Shelby reads 'yet' understands nothing.

  • BobsGirl
    BobsGirl

    I am very new to this board, but I find it entirely refreshing to have a place to visit where I know that passion exists. I had forgotten that there was such a place. Women who dare to speak thier mind?!! Men who express thier deepest sorrows and greatest joys. The openness and the freedom to do, say and be whatever and whomever we are. This is the stuff that dreams are made of. Bitterness and fighting will exist anytime you take this many passionate people and give them all free reign to express how they really feel. Thank, God, The Universe, My Higher Power, Budah, Love .... I don't know what to call it yet, but I am grateful.

    I have grown to respect many of you, care for some of you and detest a few of you, but I am happy to have the chance to read from all of you.

    BobsGirl

  • seven006
    seven006

    Tina,

    For me to be lying about something I would have to of stated it as a fact. I have not done that. I have repeatedly stated that it was my opinion derived by my observations. An opinion or an observation is not a fact, it is a personal interpretation. I may be incorrect in my opinion but that does not constitute it as a lie. You are right, I do not know all the facts and I stated that distinctly. I also can only go by what I have read since I have been on this board. If you two have a history and it is obvious that you do I have no way of knowing the details and I do not want to know. I just made some comments based on what I have read over the last few mounts. In the last few days I did not see her jumping on your butt, just you jumping on hers. That doesn't mean she hasn't but I personally have not seen it. I can only go by what I have read in regard to the last few days and observing what you have said in your posts to her and by the lack of her responding to your comments.

    One thing some of you old posters from H2O might want to consider is a lot of us do not know your history on that board and frankly I think a lot of us can give a shit. If you all want to bash the hell out of each other go right ahead, just don't get upset if some of us new to this board do not understand the time honored dislike you have for each other and we try and not choose sides. This type of behavior is the reason I never posted on H2O, I couldn't deal with all the childish bullshit. It might be nice if some of you could post a list of people you hate so none of us new ones will observe things out of the many year long context like we have lately and ask the wrong questions or come to the wrong conclusions. A simple post titled "I hate these fucking assholes" would probably do just fine for us.

    If I had observed Prisca calling you whinny or a bitch or something like that I would have said the same things to her that I said to you. I have not seen that. I can only go by what I have read on this board. I am not interested in your history. As I have said before I like you and I like her. If you have a problem with that then that is your problem. I understand where she is coming from and I understand where you are coming from. I have not picked any one side to stick my flag into, I have no flag. From now on I will not make any comments to you or respond to any of your posts. It has become obvious that you do not care for my opinion good or bad so you will no longer get it. Just simply add me to your list and we can leave it at that.

    Take care
    Dave aka Dudley

  • seven006
    seven006

    Shelby,

    I'm not even going to get into it again. If you cannot understand what I was trying to say then may I suggest you ask your spirits to explain it to you. They seem to be really good at that kind of thing.

    Take care and keep trying to figure it out, just like the rest of us.

    Dave

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Shelby,

    Although your response was addressed to me, the context seemed aimed at what Dave said.

    It is apparent that you rub alot of people the wrong way. Yes? Obvious eh? Well if you don't agree with the advice from us mortal men, take a gander a Ecclesiastes 3:1-8.

    If in fact this Bible writer was inspired by Jah of Armies, to write these timeless words, about "a time to every purpose under heaven", we should take serious note them.

    Apply this vs 6 to your situation, by realizing when and where to post your 'revelations from god'. There are specific forums Simon has provided for various subjects. I believe it is called Bible Discussion or something along that line. When you use the Main forum for preaching, it is offensive. It is niether the right place or time for so many of your Bible based expressions. Would that not solve the problem? Would it not be more in line with the advice given in scripture? I think you know the answer.

    When you come to the main forum, be Shelby the wise and insightful, kind and compassionate person you are. Just leave all the 'sacraments', spirits, and godheads out of the mix. Anyone that needs a 'spiritual fix' can hop on over the other forum, and read to thier hearts content.

    If you do not follow this advice, to me you are fighting against the spirit as expressed in Ecclesiastes. If you do continue to preach and ignore peoples plea for relief. Dave is right on it, you put yourself in no better position than Kent. You then are treading on others feelings and in fact are being abusive.

    Like Dave, this is old news now. I will say no more about it. It is all up to you now. I hope to share some ordinary talk with Shelby and Shelby alone. She is quite a gal!

    Danny

  • seven006
    seven006

    Danny,

    Stop agreeing with me, you are starting to make me think I know what I am talking about. Some people figure it out and others watch pro wrestling. What are ya gonn'a do?

    Thanks man, you say it better than I do.

    Dave

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Dave,

    Since I can't cuss at you anymore, or make disparaging things about your gray hair. I will just have to admit to the fact:

    I like you Dave.

    Danny

    Ps Now, now, Joelbear just some ordinary male bonding going on here, nothing to get your shorts riled about. :):)

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    A few thoughts of mine before I head to SLC tomorrow:

    : As far as the others here on the forum. Each and everyone of us have our good points and bad.

    Yeah! Ain't it great to be human!

    : I look at Farkel and Comf as the fatherly types and dare not speak against their wisdom. I have learned a great deal from them.

    You must mean COMF. I'm older than he, but I'm still a big dummy.

    : Kent and JanH, I look up to as older brothers, but we all know that sisters and brothers never seem to see things eye to eye on everything.

    I have a child nearly as old or older than Jan!

    Tina, Prisca, and the other girls are like the sisters here on the forum. They always have good advise but, you know how sisters can be. They love the hell out of their siblings but you better not piss them off or else. LOL

    Yep!

    : Last but not least, Shelby........She does have a big heart.

    Yep! I'm one of the few who have met her and spent time with her, and yes! She does have a big heart.

    : Joelbear, I love you man! You have such a kind heart. Please, don't ever lose that.

    Yep. Thirty years ago I would have beat him up for being just the way he is. Today, I accept him just the way his is, and I love him as my brother in our adventures on this planet with the very small time we get to spend here.

    Farkel

  • COMF
    COMF

    Lilacs:

    I look at Farkel and Comf as the fatherly types and dare not speak against their wisdom. I have learned a great deal from them.

    Aw, aren't you sweet! Your words mark a milestone for me. This is the first time in my life that an adult has ever described me as "fatherly." Now the last vestiges of age self-delusion have been dispersed. ;)

    My daughter (ROFL!), you mustn't be shy of speaking out against "our wisdom" if it doesn't sit well with you. Don't think that your own perception must of necessity be wrong and ours right any time they don't match. If you learn only one thing from me, I hope it will be to believe in yourself and rely on yourself (assuming you haven't already got that one nailed, which you may well have). The things we learn from others, we add to our own store of inner wealth, and so they become ours now, and no longer someone else's. And if we live by them, it is because we believe they are right; not because the person we learned them from believes they are right.

    (Stepping down off podium now..)

    Dave:

    There is one thing that will defuse this whole situation but I don't see it happening. That is for both you and Shelby to apologize to each other.

    I expect you're right: it won't be happening.

    I don't know how far back your dislike for each other goes but it really doesn't matter.

    We need to clarify this point, Dave: I don't dislike Shelby. I believe that if she got her identity crisis under control she would be a formidable addition to the discussions on the board, as well as a friend anyone would be glad to have in their group. It's the drama-queen posturing and the evident assumption that intelligent, mature adults will automatically play along, that sparks my acerbity. It's kind of like going out on the town with a group of friends, and having one of them act like a dog, lolling his tongue and barking and occasionally walking on all fours. How quickly would such playacting get old? And how pathetic would he look if, when you asked him to please act his age, he got mad about it and started saying you only talk that way because you're inherently a cat and are anathema to dogs?

    I am thankful I am pretty much over the majority of my anger with the JW's and I have just come to accept my lot in life and have tried to move on. You must not be at that point in your life yet

    Shelby's posturing is, as Randy pointed out, a symptom of something badly off-kilter in there; and although I'm sorry for her that she can't seem to cope with reality well enough to come on out from behind the facade, I won't join in the encouraging and enabling of such ultimately self-damaging behavior. I actively express the fact that I do not accept her posturing as reality. You apparently are mistaking that expression for anger. Well, take it how you will.

    I do think the graphic you posted about Prisca was way out of line and very hurtful

    Seriously? Odd... I thought it was quite the compliment. Why would I ask for pictorial confirmation if it was supposed to be ugly? R. Crumb's women are the epitomy of sensuality, to me. Like Freddy King says, "I love a big-leg woman." But then, I've never understood the fascination with anorexic/bulemic types, anyway. The body size I find most attractive (given that the womanly shape is still there) is somewhere between 12 and 18. And I do love a fine big butt. Anyone who took the pictures any other way was mistaken. They were intended to serve as a tension-reliever, a little flirtatious comedy in the midst of a tense situation.

    Anyway, Dave, I'm glad you posted. I don't recall seeing you take off on this long a discourse about something this serious before. Usually when I see you, you're just busy brushing the ladies off of you. It's good to have a solid look at how your cogs are meshing, in there. Thanks!

    COMF

    --> http://www.scarletmoon.com/fred/sounds/mp3s/Baby_Got_Back.mp3

    You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
    Some brothers wanna play that hard role
    and tell you that the butt need to go
    So they toss it and leave it
    And I pull up quick to retrieve it
    So Cosmo says you're fat
    Well I ain't down with that
    Cuz your waist is small and your curves are kickin'

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