Hang on a sec. If Jesus was without sin and could not die then christianity has created a contradiction. Is my logic correct?
Mary Magdalene
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XJW4EVR
Dan Brown of course treats Christianity almost as if it was a thoroughgoing docetism....that the church fathers had to choose between the deity of Christ or the humanity of Christ. ; Has he never heard of the phrase "hypostatic union"?
Neither have most JW's.Neither have most Christians.
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2112
It was "expected" for a Jew to marry and have children. Just as it was "expected" for a son to do the same work as the father, and nowhere does the bible say Jesus was or was not a carpenter. It does say his father was. Nowhere does the bible say that Jesus was or was not married. If the Bible is the word of God and does not mention these things one way or another then it is not important. To say that if he was married or not would make a difference in Gods plans then an all knowing God would have said something about it. IMO
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XJW4EVR
It was "expected" for a Jew to marry and have children. Just as it was "expected" for a son to do the same work as the father, and nowhere does the bible say Jesus was or was not a carpenter. It does say his father was. Nowhere does the bible say that Jesus was or was not married. If the Bible is the word of God and does not mention these things one way or another then it is not important. To say that if he was married or not would make a difference in Gods plans then an all knowing God would have said something about it. IMO
OK, folks, this is not really that hard. All you have to do is crack open the Bible. If Jesus was married then Paul when writing 1 Cor. 9:5 would have said that he had the right marry as Jesus was married. However, he referred to Peter/Cephas', I don't recall which name Paul used, wife accompanying him in his travels.
Yes, Dan Brown does say the Jesus was "expected" to be married. Unfortunately, Dan Brown makes a number of claims, and most of them are factually and historically inaccurate.
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2112
I don't know who Dan Brown is/was I was refering to Jewish tradition. My only point was that the Bible does not say Jesus was or wasn't married. So it should not be an issue. Some may believe he was and some may believe he was not. We should not divide over this issuse. To insist on one belief or the other when the Bible does not say so, anounts to legalism which is one of the reasons many of us left the Org.
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XJW4EVR
I don't know who Dan Brown is/was I was refering to Jewish tradition. ;My only point was that the Bible does not say Jesus was or wasn't married. So it should not be an issue. Some may believe he was and some may believe he was not. We should not divide over this issuse. To insist on one ;belief or the other ;when the Bible does not say so, anounts to legalism which is one of the reasons many of us left the Org.
You used terminology that I have only heard come from Dan Brown. If you don't know who Dan Brown is I would have to question your sincerity or your grasp on current events. Dan Brown is the author of The DaVinci Code. I find it odd that people use his terminology, yet when called out on this fact they will quuickly disavow any knowledge of Dan Brown, but I digress.
I also posted Scripture in which, Paul the leading sculpter of Christian theology, had an open door to affirm Jesus' status as married yet he did not. Rather he cites Peter as the example of a married apostle.
While I do not "insist" that Jesus' marital status to be one way or another, it seems evident to me that no proof for Jesus being married exists. A point, that is aggreed upon by conservative Christian scholar Darrell Bock & liberal Christian scholar John Domenic Crossan.
So it doesn't appear that legalism is the issue you are raging against. Perhaps it is something else?
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Tea4Two
The movie (Hollywood), Da Vince Code, It was mostly fiction with a few historical facts.
I read the Book and loved the story....A nice peice of fiction with a few facts most of us didn't have any knowledge about until now.
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XJW4EVR
A nice peice of fiction with a few facts most of us didn't have any knowledge about until now.
Just curious since I read the book though I have yet to see the movie. To what "facts" are you referring to?
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Leolaia
There are lots of facts in the Da Vinci Code. Such as:
- The Mona Lisa is in the Louvre Museum.
- Leonardo Da Vinci was once a famous painter.
- Constantine was once emperor of Rome.
- There are chateaus in France.
- Isaac Newton is buried at Westminster Abbey.
- There were books written about Jesus.
- There was once a Spanish Inquisition.
- The Catholic Church has been around for centuries.
I could probably add a few dozen more.
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jstalin
I saw the movie this weekend and it was pretty bad. The action was contrived and the dialogue was horrible.