the lion will eat straw like the lamb...

by DannyBloem 45 Replies latest jw friends

  • gumby
    gumby


    Funny....you never hear much information in the publications about carnivorus dinosaurs. I'll betcha those dino's they found with meat in their bellies accidently was takin a bite out of some tall grass oneday......and a damn buffalo was sleepin there and the dino didn't see him, and when he took a bite of grass, he got the unseen buffalo's upper torso and chewed it up with the grass, then thought..."damn, that tastes just like chicken!", ...and so he bit there again and ate the bottom half of the buffalo. He finally realised he needed to graze where there was buffalo's cuz it tasted better with them mixed in with the grass. That's what I'm thinkin. The crazyass dino passed this tradition down to his kids ...then all the big toothed bastards like them copied their arses!

    Gumbastardaurus

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    TD I disaree with the idea that straw is not a proper food for cows, it is food for them just like any other, digested by microbes in their digestive system.

    It may not be eough on its own but that doesn't make it a non food. Eg we can't say that because man can't survive on pasta alone, pasta is a non food.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Straw may be fed as part of the roughage component of the diet to cattle that are on a near maintenance level of energy intake. It has a low digestible energy and nutrient content. However, the heat generated when microorganisms in a herbivores' gut digest straw can be useful in maintaining body temperature in cold climates.

    Gumwikipedia

  • TD
    TD


    What type of straws do you have accross the pond, Greendawn? Do you actually feed untreated (e.g. Beckman method, etc.) straw to cattle over there? (As anything but a filler)

    Here in the U.S. we commonly have Barley, Flax, Millet, Oat, Rye, Soybean and Wheat. With the exception of Millet, the crude protein content of each is effectivley zero. This, in conjuction with the extremely high cellulose content causes an undesireable phenomenon in cattle known as "Rumen Fill." Basically, the first stomach becomes clogged, as it were, with a difficult to digest mass. This can take up to 72 hours to clear and as you can imagine, further aggravates the problem with the inherent lack of nutrition in straw, because the animal is unable to eat any other food in the meantime. Straw is given to mature beef cattle only as a filler and not given to dairy cattle at all.

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    straw is not the same as hay. greendawn you are prolly thinking of hay. oops this has been covered already *bows out*

  • Spectrum
    Spectrum

    Has anybody seen an octapus take out a crab or star fish. It's maccabre. The octapus restrains these animals bites through their shell and injects them with poison. Imagine if somoeone took a slice of our skull then injected our brain with poison.

    What about the wasp that debilitates other insects with a non lethal poison then lays it's eggs inside the comatosed insect then when the eggs hatch they eat their still living host from the inside out. I think JWs need to rethink the nature of the God they worship.

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Dear Danny,

    Little Bo Peep did some research into this at one time and I was amazed that she found that the Society believes this already occured. But that it has "greater" fullfillment in our day! Being raised in the organization, I thought I knew all their teachings very well. However, this point, was new to me! When after Adam and Eve did the animals ever be at peace with one another again?? Aparently they teach that it was only symbolic and it was refering to the Jews return to their homeland after they were released from captivity. Here is the article that explains this. What is interesting, is since 607 is not a factual date for the destruction of Jerusalem, then you don't have 1914. So the Societys future fullfillment really has no foundation based on those dates. Could it be that this scripture was fullfilled already, and then, that was it?? Having no further application?? It is definately worth some consideration. Anyhow,I thought you may find this interesting. I know I sure did!!!

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

    ip-1 163-165 Changed Conditions on Earth

    12

    Picture an Israelite who has just learned of Cyrus’ decree that the Jews return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple. Will he leave the security of Babylon to make the long trip home? During Israel’s 70-year absence, the deserted fields have become overgrown with weeds. Wolves, leopards, lions, and bears now freely prowl those fields. Cobras too make their home there. The returning Jews will have to depend on domestic animals for survival—flocks and herds will provide milk, wool, and meat, and oxen will pull the plow. Will these fall victim to predators? Will small children be bitten by snakes? What about the danger of being ambushed on the journey?

    13

    Isaiah now paints a heartwarming picture of the conditions that God will bring about in the land. He says: "The wolf will actually reside for a while with the male lamb, and with the kid the leopard itself will lie down, and the calf and the maned young lion and the well-fed animal all together; and a mere little boy will be leader over them. And the cow and the bear themselves will feed; together their young ones will lie down. And even the lion will eat straw just like the bull. And the sucking child will certainly play upon the hole of the cobra; and upon the light aperture of a poisonous snake will a weaned child actually put his own hand. They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in all my holy mountain; because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters are covering the very sea." (Isaiah 11:6-9) Do these words not touch the heart? Notice that the peace described here results from the knowledge of Jehovah. Hence, more is involved than mere safety from wild animals. The knowledge of Jehovah will not change animals, but it will affect people. Neither on the way home nor in their restored land will the Israelites need to fear wild beasts or beastlike men.—Ezra 8:21, 22; Isaiah 35:8-10; 65:25.

    14

    This prophecy, however, has a larger fulfillment. In 1914, Jesus, the Messiah, was enthroned on heavenly Mount Zion. In 1919 the remaining ones of "the Israel of God" experienced release from Babylonish captivity and shared in the restoration of true worship. (Galatians 6:16) As a result, the way was opened for a modern-day fulfillment of Isaiah’s Paradise prophecy. "Accurate knowledge," the knowledge of Jehovah, has changed personalities. (Colossians 3:9, 10) Formerly violent people have become peaceable. (Romans 12:2; Ephesians 4:17-24) These developments have now affected millions because Isaiah’s prophecy has come to include a rapidly increasing number of Christians with an earthly hope. (Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 60:22) These have learned to look to the time when the whole earth will be restored as a secure, peaceful paradise, according to God’s original purpose.—Matthew 6:9, 10; 2 Peter 3:13.

    15

    In that restored Paradise, will Isaiah’s prophecy have a further, perhaps more literal, fulfillment? It seems reasonable to think so. The prophecy gives to all who will live under the Messiah’s rule the same assurance that it gave to the returning Israelites; they and their children will not feel threatened by harm from any source—human or animal. Under the Messiah’s Kingdom rule, all earth’s inhabitants will enjoy peaceful conditions like those that Adam and Eve enjoyed in Eden. Of course, the Scriptures do not reveal every detail of what life was like in Eden—or of what it will be like in Paradise. We can be confident, though, that under the wise and loving rule of the King Jesus Christ, everything will be just as it should be.
  • greendawn
    greendawn

    TD, I am not a farmer but still I think straw is food for ruminants because it's an elementary fact in biology that bacteria in their digestivw system can digest straw which is the stalk left after the grain is harvested.

    True there isn't much digestible protein in it but the cow can get a lot of energy out of it as cellulose is digested to sugar, almost as much as from hay.

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    Alls I know is if you feed an animal much staw and nothing else, it will die of starvation or twisted stomach, whichever comes first.

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    I was told once that all the animals were vegetarians before the flood. Guess the JW's never heard of DINOSAURS! Also, the bible did not hear of them either. Which shows all the more, that the Bible is man's word and not some Holy God!

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