by enlightenedcynic 49 Replies latest watchtower scandals
For information, in the UK it appears that IBSA, WTBTS and each local congregation have to register as charities. Any that receives over £10k p.a. has to file accounts, which are available online.
Tip: it seems as if each is registered with the town name first. Search the keyword 'jehovah' and it should come up.
juni:
It's a win-win situation for the WT society
Absolutely. They wouldn't be doing it unless they intended to reap financial benefits from it at every angle.
To be sure, whenever the WTS uses the term Simplification™ it means "a way we can get more money out of the followers, without having to spend any of our own".
My experience of these schemes are that elders get bees in their bonnet and have pet project
Absolutely. The first time a car was purchased by someone in our congregation that had air conditioning (by an elder) then all of a sudden we NEEDED air conditioning at the KH, and we all had to cough up money and loans to pay for it.
It may be a total neccessity in hot countries, but in the UK, there are appoximately 3 days in the year when aircon is a must. The rest of the time (in Yorkshire, anyway) its pissing it down.
If 3% is supposed to be to account for inflation, wouldn't it make more sense to peg it directly against actual inflation rates?
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...at a service meeting the p/o gives a part and hands out sheets of paper and asks all to anonymously indicate how much they can contribute in one lump sum or over a continued period.
I'm GOBSMACKED!
...at a service meeting the p/o gives a part and hands out sheets of paper and asks all to anonymously indicate how much they can contribute in one lump sum or over a continued period.I'm GOBSMACKED!
No, that happened at our hall too, when the elder with the car with aircon decided the hall needed aircon too. Wouldnt have been odd in some places, but over half of the congregation still had to get the bus to the hall because they didnt own cars. Several families didnt own a television, and lots of families didnt go on holiday. It was hard to understand why aircon in the hall was so important in such a cold climate.
No, that happened at our hall too, when the elder with the car with aircon decided the hall needed aircon too....at a service meeting the p/o gives a part and hands out sheets of paper and asks all to anonymously indicate how much they can contribute in one lump sum or over a continued period.I'm GOBSMACKED!Wouldnt have been odd in some places, but over half of the congregation still had to get the bus to the hall because they didnt own cars. Several families didnt own a television, and lots of families didnt go on holiday. It was hard to understand why aircon in the hall was so important in such a cold climate.
Totally happened here too. They did that exact same secret pledge thing. This is total corporate orthodoxy, it's part of the Simplification™.
My theory is cause they would be eligible for a tax write off of the interest. Getting it back twice so to speak.
That's strange that you would say that jw because you had stated:
What years were you an active Jw? still am.
When was the last year you attended a meeting? Still attend .
Were you a true christian or did you live a double life? I feel I am a true christian.
What turn you away from the WTS? I never was a WTS worshipper just a JW.
Do you consider yourself a christian , agnostic or an athiest now and why? Christian
You say you don't lead a double life; why do you visit this board? You better be worried if someone knows you're here. You'll be DF in a NY minute. (pun not intended)
Why do you care what the WTS does w/claiming interest twice? You said you really don't care what the WTS does. (paraphrased by me)
What is a Christian to you??
Juni (confused by jw's answers)
To add insult to injury, the KH I go to payed off their 15yr loan (mortgage) to the society about 8 yrs early. The kicker is that we had to pay the total INFLATION (interest) for the full 15 yr term.
If this 3% is inflation money, then why do we need to fulfill our total term as far as interest collected is concerned?
Has anybody else heard of this?
And another thing, we have been told that we are to pay $8 per publisher for our monthly bills. But after paying off the loan we're told to continue contributing the $8 per publisher so that we can collect enough money for a renovation later in the future. Five yrs later we are told that we will need to borrow money from the society for our renovations. It seems that our renovation fund was sent to the society to further "kingdom interests". What a scam!!!! I'm fuming over this every time I think about it.
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. THAT'S ALL IT'S ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
