"My Dad is Watching Pornography" JW TEEN part 2. BAD!

by Dune 42 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  Dune

  For those who are not familiar with the story heres the page.

  WOW, just wow. So just to sum it up a bit, this girl caught her dad watching porn, told me about it and then talk about ways to get him to stop watching it. Apparently she never told the elders and apparently he stopped watching porn.

  This morning she calls me up and tells me that her dad sexually molested her 14 year old sister a few months ago and was doing it continually. Her sister told her last night and this morning she called the elders on him.

  This is crazy because he is a MInisterial Servant and up until this point, i seriously ignored/discredited all of the pedophile stories i've read on JWD and on Silent Lambs.

  But i guess this will leave yet another question, What exactly will they do about the father? will they just take away his position and leave it like that? Will they alert the authorities? Should i try to convince my friend to call the police? This just amazes me because in her mind, this has all started because he was watching pornography and i know that its not that but he's just a sick, disturbed bastard.
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  MidwichCuckoo

  Dune - YOU call the police. The Org has no Authority to deal with these situations, and from what I understand, they may well cover it up. Alternatively call SOCIAL SERVICES CHILD PROTECTION and they will take the necessary action.
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  rassillon

  I would call the police my damn self !
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  Dune

  Yeah, i tried that, but the girl got extremely angry at me, for some reason she thinks that she needs to handle this herself and got angry when i suggested calling the police.
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  MidwichCuckoo

  Yeah, i tried that, but the girl got extremely angry at me

  Oh, never mind then just forget about it!!! You believe a crime has been committed and you're going to IGNORE a child victim because someone 'got angry' with you? Lol
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  rassillon

  Big F**kin deal, let her get mad. You need to look at what is important here.

  Tell her that if she does not do it you WILL. Period. Think about the other girl.

  If she is going to have any chance to recover and lead a halfway decent life she needs to get help.

  And that just won't happen if it is kept quiet.

  You will learn when you grow up that people get mad and they can also get glad and people don't always have perspective or know what is best.
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  damselfly

  It's a slim chance that the police and/or child welfare will be notified by the elders.
  
  Try talking (calmly) to your friend again and word it that you are concerned for her sister. That you want her to get the best care possible both physically and emotionally/mentally.
  Where's the mother? Is she aware of this? How has she reacted if she knows?
  
  Dams
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  Dune

  Yeah, i guess you're right on this one. I hope i dont come across as a a$$hole, but a part of me wanted to keep out of it to see how the elders handle it. But I guess waiting for them isnt a good idea. Thanx for the advice.
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  damselfly

  If they were notified this morning you will know by the end of the week what they are going to do.
  
  In the meantime are the father and both daughters still living under one roof? What will that arrangement do for her mental state? He needs to not be there or in any contact with her, or she needs to be in a safe place and protected.
  
  Dams
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  Big Tex

  Different states have different reporting laws. But you may have a legal, as well as a moral, obligation to report the allegation and then let the police handle it. Child abuse flourishes best in secrecy and silence. Keep silent and you could well be allowing the abuse to continue. Switch roles with that girl, if it were you, how would you feel if someone knew what was happening to you and did nothing to stop it?

  But i guess this will leave yet another question, What exactly will they do about the father? will they just take away his position and leave it like that? Will they alert the authorities?

  The first thing the elders will do is call the Society to receive instructions. If your state has no reporting laws, then they will tell the elders to keep silent and do nothing. As for the father, they will ask him if the allegation is true. When he denies it, and they always do, the entire matter will be dropped.

  See, Jehovah's Witnesses teach there must be two eyewitnesses to an act of child abuse. If your friend actually saw her father molest her sister then that is only 1 eyewitness. Additionally your friend and any other eyewitness must a baptized Jehovah's Witness in good standing (you know how worldly people can lie). So the case would be dropped. Jehovah's Witnesses assume that the victim is lying until proven otherwise. Any physical evidence, semen, STDs, etc. are irrelevent.

  Will they take away his position? No. My father molested me and he is still a servant in good standing.

  Chris