Guantanamo Bay Suicides - a PR Move

by eyeslice 131 Replies latest jw friends

  • eyeslice
    eyeslice

    Guantanamo Bay is in the 'here and now' - the 21st Century!
    If mankind is too become 'more civilized'in the future we must learn a way to work out the problems caused by deep seated differences.
    The west, Bush and Blair in particular, hold up their way of equity and justice as the model the rest of the world should follow. Principles of legal representation, a person being innocent until proved guilty are not to be found in Guantanamo.
    Eyeslice

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    Guantanamo is just a deterrent most likely those people there have done nothing wrong, but their detention sends a message to jihadic al qaida soldiers that they could end up there if they try to carry out war acts against the West.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    btw, I'm not pro-gitmo... I wish it wasn't there, I wish there was no war, I wish the twin towers were still standing and people were going about their daily business there, I wish we could all get along, I wish religious fanatics would allow all people to believe whatever they want to and not try to impose their beliefs on others....

    I wish that too. I wish it with all my heart. But, just because things are not this way does not mean that we can treat innocent people the way that we are treating them in Guantanamo. I say they are innocent because most of them have not yet been charged or given trial. What good is our judicial system if we can ignore it during war time?

    oh well, like I said... nobody cares about anything anymore, it's just all blah, blah, blah....

    I care. I care very much. So do you and so do the others responding to this thread. DE, please do not give up hope. It's all we've got.....

  • Simon
    Simon

    Double Edge

    I'm getting sick of reading the tripe Militant Christianity propaganda that you trot out. Get a clue.

    Guantanamo is just a deterrent most likely those people there have done nothing wrong, but their detention sends a message to jihadic al qaida soldiers that they could end up there if they try to carry out war acts against the West.
    I think the only message it sends is that America is a nation of hypocrisy - all grandiose words and claims but fundamentally SHIT like the rest.
  • Fangorn
    Fangorn

    I'd say hypocrisy is bleating sympathy for people whose idea of the proper treatment of prisoners is to saw their heads off with rusty knives.

  • Fangorn
    Fangorn

    "As far as giving somebody a pill, rope or gas oven, why don't we give it to you? I think the world would be a better place. I trust my Muslim neighbors more than I trust somebody like you. And no, I'm not a liberal dem. I'm a conservative." Thanks Robdar, I'm always interested in listening to the ravings of a complete lunatic. Very entertaining. Yeah, you're a conservative, you and Karl Marx.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I'd say hypocrisy is bleating sympathy for people whose idea of the proper treatment of prisoners is to saw their heads off with rusty knives. I'd say that when you can prove that any of the prisoners being held in Guantanamo have done these things, then you can talk about hypocrisy. But you can't prove it, can you? Why? Because most of them are being held without being charged. I'm still waiting for you to provide a link showing that Guantanamo "is great".

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    I'd say we deserve the kind of government we allow to impose itself on the rights of our fellowman. It was insane to reelect an administration that chose to declare war on a concept.

    "Terror" is not a nation, it wears no colors, it is in every nation including our own, it is on every schoolyard in this country. You may as well declare war on "up" or "wind"; speaking of which, upwind is where I intend to be when the stench from this administration's horrible international and domestic politics start having a more dramatic impact on KristyAnn (and others) than the price at the pump.

    It is only a matter of time. The world was on our side after 9/11. Now the world is on the other side and they shake their heads at our ignorance. We must want terror in our streets to the degree that other nations suffer it, because the policies we have allowed as a reaction to 9/11 will pave the way for political oppression under the guise of antiterrorism. This will eventually give local terrorists the needed shove to act. I do hope this administration doesn't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out how this scenario ends up in 20 years. There are hundreds of examples in history.

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • roybatty
    roybatty
    Make a post about people being illegally detailed without trial and it's all "hey, who needs trials? we think they are guilty so they are".

    I have to admit, what kind of useful information do we expect to get out of people imprisoned for over 4 years.

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    Fine let every last one of them go...

    Send them to England...

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