Great news. The WTS did not commit spiritual prostitution with UN.

by thirdwitness 597 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Honesty
    Honesty
    In other words, the Watchtower is nothing more than a cheap, diseased slut.

    W

    Yes, Mother has always sold her self to the highest bidder and then rationalised and denied the consequences of her alduterous acts.

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Gee, what a surprise. thirdwitness redirects people to this thread so he can fail to respond in more than one thread. Clever.

    I don't care which thread you use to answer me, sport. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

    AuldSoul

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    By the by, thirdwitness, would you agree that the Watchtower Society mischaracterized the nature of their relationship to the UN/DPI as a registration in their letter to me?

    http://watchtowerwhy.home.mchsi.com/images/wtreplydpi.htm

    When I told other JWs about the fact that they had joined the UN/DPI as an Associate and had maintained the relationship from early 1992 through autumn of 2001 (almost 10 years), the local body formed a Judicial Committee. Why would I be punished for telling the truth? Why, thirdwitness?

    AuldSoul

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Well, I guess thirdwitness decided to leave in favor of warmer climates. Or, perhaps he was invited to leave after rejecting ONCE AGAIN the warnings of the Forum Assistants. Some people just don't know how to behave when they visit another person's house.

    Unless thirdwitness has been deleted, he should at least be able to answer me by PM.

    AuldSoul

  • thirdwitness
    thirdwitness

    Steve ask about 'sharing the ideals of the UN' as a requirement for association with the DPI. Here is the answer:

    http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/principlesupport.html

    It still appears that you haven't read the whole thing. I know it may be long but if you want to know the truth and stop listening to the misleading ramblings of apostates you should read it.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    3Rd Witness,exactly how stupid are you?..Under no circumstances should the WBTS have joined the United Nations NGO..There is no excuse ..None..Your defense of this shows everyone your dishonesty and lack of integrity..Is there anything about you that is not corrupt?...OUTLAW

  • zagor
    zagor

    from your site:

    I n the current version of the DPI NGO brochure, it asks the question “What are the Criteria for NGOs to become associated with DPI? The NGO must support and respect the principles of the Charter of the UN”, however in a previous chapter we saw how in earlier versions as late as 1994, the brochure said, “Who is eligible for association with the DPI? Non-profit organizations which: share the ideals of the UN charter”.

    Frankly, to me it is greater thing to share ideals of something than just to "respect the principles" which would mean that WTBS aligned itself with UN with its mind and soul. No further explanation needed. Unless you need English interpreter.

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Alright, thirdwitness, why do you keep insinuating that questions are answered on your Web site which are NOT answered on your Web site?

    Your Web site does not address the issue of the other organizations which are and were members of the UN/DPI. You will have to address that issue here, since the issue was raised here. Frankly, even if your Web site was written by God himself (which I am beginning to think you believe) THIS IS NOT YOUR WEB SITE.

    Answer questions raised about your posts on this forum, ON THIS FORUM. Can you not comprehend the basic premise of a discussion forum? Are that dense or that rude? Which is it?

    I refuse to argue with your Web site. I encourage every poster here to follow my example in this matter. Your Web site doesn't have an acount on this forum and cannot respond to questions. Neither can you, apparently. You are either too stupid or too scared to do so. Which is it, sport?

    Either way, your arguments presented on this forum are without basis and you refuse to answer questions that go directly to basis for your assumptions. You've been repeatedly warned about not posting your Web site as your response to questions. You continue to do so, and while many people here post links to all sorts of things it is NEVER tolerated that a link would be permitted as a response to a question. This means you are a propagandist, not a forum participant.

    I hope you get deleted, there is now plenty of evidence of your non-responsiveness, which is not present with the remainder of the forum membership.

    You still owe me answers to my questions, but I am confident you won't answer them because you are a student of your masters, the Governing Body. They don't answer my questions either.

    AuldSoul

  • thirdwitness
    thirdwitness

    Now that I have shown that JWs are right about 607, 1914, parousia, seven times, etc I will now address Auldsoul's and others questions about NGO/WT.

    (1) Did the non-governmental organization known legally as Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. join the United Nations Department of Public Information (UN/DPI) as an Associate?

    Yes, that is said in the essay. If you would have read it you would not be asking. Read the 2nd paragraph in this link: http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/knowyourngos.html It is clear as day.

    (2.1) If not, why did they request to disassociate in 2001 from an organization to which they were not associated?

    This question is invalid. But if you are asking why did they request disassociation it is because the criteria had changed over the years and when it was realized they ask to be removed.

    http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/thechangingworldofngos.html

    http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/pleasesignnowhere.html

    (2.2) If so, is the United Nations Department of Public Information an organization under judgment by Jehovah God?

    All govenments are to be destroyed (by the one who was given a crown and began riding on the white horse, also called THE WORD, who cast Satan out thus came to pass the power and kingdom and authority of Christ and did become King in 1914) including the UN. And yet, we are to be in subjection to them and show repect to them and their organizational programs and we are to use them for our benefit. Just like Paul and the apostles did.

    Often apostates try to compare the UN and governments and their programs to false relgious organizations and point out how we would be DFed if we joined the YMCA or the Vatican to look at a painting but there is a big difference.

    The YMCA is a false religious organization — the UN is not. While the Bible tells us to be in subjection to worldly governments by obeying the law, paying our taxes, registering in certain programs, and using governments to “legally establish” the preaching work, the Bible puts us under no such obligations to any of the false religions in this world. Revelation 18:4 tells us to “get out from among” false religion, while Romans 13:1 says to “be in subjection” to the government. Using government programs and facilities for our benefit cannot be compared to using similar things from false religions.

    (3) Are the other members of the UN/DPI approved or disapproved by God? (see provided examples)

    To be recognized as a legal religion, in some countries, the WTS has registered as an NGO. Other religions have also registered. So they are all recognized NGO's of that government. Because other religions have been associated as NGOs of the government does that mean the WTS will be judged by Jehovah just like the rest of them?

    So really what you are asking is basically: are all other religious organizations approved or disapproved by God, right? I would say disapproved because of their false teachings about God, such as the trinity and hellfire.

  • thirdwitness
    thirdwitness

    Outlaw: 3Rd Witness,exactly how stupid are you?..Under no circumstances should the WBTS have joined the United Nations NGO..There is no excuse ..None..Your defense of this shows everyone your dishonesty and lack of integrity..Is there anything about you that is not corrupt?...OUTLAW I say: There's nothing wrong with what the WTS did. I can make statements too just like you. If you are going to say anything you should back it up with some proof. Statements are easy to make. The proof is in the pudding.

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