Hi IPSec Edit: Blasted dialup quirks! I've been alright IPSec. How are you? I like your optimistic view of the future. I don't want to be a pessimist but....I'll be one anyway with my next post.
IS EVOLUTION THE ANSWER?
by Dansk 53 Replies latest jw friends
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IP_SEC
Hi Midg,
How ya been bud?
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Midget-Sasquatch
IPSec,
I hope that world without competition for resources comes quickly. I wonder though if even without battling for resources, persons wouldn't still battle for positions of power. And in some ways use the basics of evolution, to push social darwinism. Social Darwinism, I realize, is mostly in the past, but couldn't it remanifest itself and be fed into our tribal instincts, in lieu of religion?
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Undecided
The more I contemplate life and why we are here the more I realize there is no answer that can be based on facts. All answers are the results of thinking about it and how we may feel about it in our inner self. I think the conflicts could be solved if everyone cared about others but that will never happen, so enjoy you life where you are if that's possible.
Evolution is happening but I wonder if we are evolving up or down??
Ken P.
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Dansk
Hi Ken,
Evolution is happening but I wonder if we are evolving up or down??
I'm an optimist, so I say 'up'.
Ian
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IP_SEC
persons wouldn't still battle for positions of power.
You may very well be right. Still I wonder what the word power might even mean in a world without competition for resources? All wars, organized religion, social status etc are the result of competition for resources. (I could be wrong by the use of ALL if I am let me know) I should also add that there may always be predators in our species, but in my world view they should be less and less as rationality and the lack of "need" for predation become more and more.
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Midget-Sasquatch
IPSec,
The more I think about it, the more I think you've struck on the major hurdle to peace. If there needn't be competition for resources nearly all conflicts would end.
The only thing I can still imagine there being is sexual competition. So maybe in the future the biologically "underprivileged", if they couldn't modify themselves into Uber Studs and Uber Babes, would eventually end up being a subspecies like.....ohh how this irks me now.....like myself..
Midget of the "sour grapes / have-not / victim of globalization / imperially humiliated /dignity stripped from the evil West" class
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IP_SEC
The only thing I can still imagine there being is sexual competition.
We can only hope so midg
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Midget-Sasquatch
LOL!
Have a good morning IP and all, I've just gotten a request from the alpha female of my clan and have to bring her grocery shopping.
(Italian boys have been conditioned to still heed their moms)
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Norm
Interesting question Dansk.
In Biblical times and even up until Galileo, mankind had a very earth-centric view. Because of the Bible we still have a very humano-centric view. Even among evolutionist's there has ben a tendency to view humans as the end product of evolution. Thus we have expression like "primitive" about animals and ideas that monkies and primates are just stages on the way to homo sapiens. Slowly this idea is also starting to lose ground as evolutionists realize that there is no such thing as a "primitive" or "unevolved" organism or species. All species that exist are perfect fully functioning and sucessful within their perimeter or habitat as they have been able to mate and spread their genes to the next generation. Evolution comes in when there is a need for them to change.
If one subscribes to that view, which I do, humans is in no way more important and valuable then other species on this planet. The science of genetics is at it's beginning and will no doubt astound us in the future as we gain more insight into how it works. It is however no longer any doubt that we as humans are related to almost any living organism we are sharing this planet with. We share genes with mammals, reptiles, yes we share genes with yeast, worms flies and mice : http://www.hhmi.org/genesweshare/
I think that human beings really need to be far more humble when it comes to our place and space on this litte planet.
Much thanks to religion we tend to think far to highly of ourself.
Norm