DICK, GORE, BUSH & COLIN (page 4)

Amazing

Hi Danny: Ahhhhh ... yes, now that I think about it some more, I think you are very correct. Lee was glossed over at first while Falwell was being roasted by the media. Good catch that I missed. I was thinking more of recent reports where the media started hammering Lee because of her dissention. But that was well after Congress passed Bush's proposals. Thanks. - Amazing

Seeker

PorkChop

Seeker I assume you get your politcal and intellectual insight from Doonesbury?

Incorrect. But thanks for asking.

Seeker

DannyBear

How was the media biased? They reported in depth the comments of Jerry Falwell (preacher) they made it front page stuff. Yet this left wing liberal, cuba supporting, Ron Dellums former aide, 'socialist' a kind label for her, a member of our congress, her salary paid by you and I, gets no press whatsoever. Biased isn't even the word for it.

I believe the word would be negligence, probably on your part, for I heard about it right away. It was immediately reported by that so-called bastion of liberal press, the New York media. I guess you missed it, but I sure heard about her, long before I heard about Falwell.

Have any other examples?

Utopian Reformist

All right AMAZING, I will recompose myself and down shift my gears. However, how much proof do you need? Anyone in any position of responsibility in life demonstrates their capability by their demeanor and behavior when performing and operating.

When GW is performing, he simply fails. He doesn't perform well or inspire emotion. Now about liberals and conservatives, let me assure you I am NOT a liberal. My favorite presidents were Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, and Reagan in the past century.

I keep certain personal views out of this forum in order to avoid injuring certain members and causing a rash of flaming. Trust me, after five years in the Marine Corps and two combat missions, I am not a liberal.

DCs Ghost

gotta say that i have been impressed by our x-cokehead, business bankrupting, office stealing president of ours, who would have known he would have kept his cool so well under so much pressure. . . .

Julie

Amazing-

I got the punchline and yes, it *is* funny. Good one.

Seeker--

My brilliant friend, as always I agree with everything you said. It is sad that the most honorable do stay out of politics.

Lambchop--

Why don't you go listen to Rush for a while and get caught up on some misinformation?

Julie

Amazing

Hi UR: Thanks for your great response. I think a little history will help. When I was growing up, it was considered "taboo" to discuss religion or politics. Although, like most families, my parents did talk about politics at home. They were 'Southern Democrats' and hence more socially conservative.

Then, as I reached adulthood, and could express my own views, I became a JW -admittedly a bad move - and had to supress all my political views, but was now required to discuss religion door-to-door each week, informally all other times.

So, now here I sit, with total freedom of the mind and heart, and in a situation on a forum where I can talk with almost anyone of any view or background - and I feel like I am in intellectual DisneyLand. where there are plenty of twists and turns on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride that eventually ends up in Hell. Then all of a sudden, the last door opens and the ride ends in fun, and everyone moves on to the Mad Hatter! [BTW: I went to DisneyLand shortly after it first opened in 1955, and there was Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - and ever since then, when I visit there, I always make sure to visit that ride. Holy American Tradition. ]

So, I like to discuss politics, and I respect those that do not. I am not a hardline Conservative, but I generally take that position in most of these types of discussions, because I find that Liberals tend to be overwhelmed with irrational fear of Conservatives. For example, they fear Bush will kill the environment with big oil, or that corporate cheiftains sit in boardroom meetings "frothing at the mouth" for an opportunity to screw their fellow man. I find such fears irrational, and will debate them.

But there are people on the Conservative side who also exhibit irrational fears that Liberals want to enslave us under a socialist system where the government runs everything. So, as I said above, the 'truth' or better stated, 'balance' is likely somewhere in the elusive middle. Thanks again. - Amazing

messenger

I know I should stay out of this but I cannot resist.

While I never voted for Clinton, I can recall a few things about his presidency of eight years;
peace
booming stock market
cheap gas
low interest rates

With Bush in eight months we have;

crashing stock market
highest gas prices in history
threshold of World War III
low interest rates (just wait)

If Bush is such a damn genius, and if he has such smart people around him then why the above?

How do you come up with such blind thinking? You might compare it to the Reagan lovers who say he was the greatest president. I remember more farmers losing their land than at any time in American history not to mention the interest rates and other measures that plunged the country into debt that has yet to be paid.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. My opinion is Bush is a twit. As far as the future is concerned, be afraid, very afraid.

Seeker

Be fair, messenger. That is a simplistic look at events. The stock market was in need of a major correction, and had already begun one while Clinton was in office. Yes, the Bush people were irresponsible for talking down the economy while campaigning. That put a scare into people, which made the economy tank more than it needed to. But it was already heading down.

Gas prices have dropped back down after a brief run-up, which temporarily allowed the current administration to fuel fear with talk about an energy crisis that didn't exist, other than in California, and only for a little bit.

We are not on the threshold of World War III. The war that has just been declared is not like a typical war that we are used to in the past. For one thing, it's almost the whole world (including many Moslem countries) against terrorist organizations. That's not a World War. It's probably not even fair to call it a war, for it dignifies the criminals who did this. A crime was committed, and now the criminals will be hunted down.

Utopian Reformist

AMAZING:

Now I better understand your political position and frame of reference. Very interesting.

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