Hello Scotsman, Welcome!
Scotsman: Once again a few mention WT articles from 1914 etc. WHAT????????
Were any of us even born then????? Digging up the past. Give us a break please.
smellsgood: I may be wrong, but wasn't the Bible written thousands of years ago, perhaps as far back as 1,500 B.C.? Isn't that the book upon which supposedly the Jehovah's Witnesses base their beliefs? And what of the Watchtower digging up the "past" of Christendom? Wasn't it supposedly the 4th Century when Constantine and his ilk first "paganized" Christendom? So if it weren't for them nosing around in the past they wouldn't have made those shocking discoveries to begin with.
Well, were any of us born then? The WT went ahead and "dug up the past." They should have given it a break, please.
Something from 3,500 years therefore is "truth" and "relevant" but something from less than 100 years ago from the "truth" society is NOT? Interesting.
Scotsman: One that is mentioned is the "apparent" 1975 prediction.
My mother was brought up in the truth and lived through the 1975 in the truth. She knew nothing of a 1975 prediction nor did anyone else in her local congregation. The misrepresentation of 1975 seemed to be sporadic, depending where people lived.
So lets say it for old times sake - The Watchtower Society, The Governing Body nor the Faithful Slave ever said that 1975 will definately be the end. The year was mentioned from assembly platforms and in a few articles but never ever ever was it said that that particular year would absolutely, unquestionably be the start of armageddon.
smellsgood: Ok then. Now, here are some predictions from an Organization other than the WT society about coincidentally that specific time period, the '70s. So, what would you think about these statements which were published from a Biblical perspective? Are they saying these things WILL come to pass? Are they saying that GOD will act at that time? Where are they basing their authority? Is this "definite" language? Since these are "predictions" remarking that GOD will ACT at that time, would we then be able to caste them as PROPHECIES? How would you have reacted if you had been a member of this organization at that time? Would those who read these statements be coming to conclusions regarding this time period because they were inferring their own expectations into the text, or because they were being led to believe what was written?
"This seven years of national trouble takes us-if the dates which appear so definitely indicated by these prophecies are correct-from 1965 to 1972!" (The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, April 1956, p. 22.)
"Frankly, literally dozens of prophesied events indicate that this final revival of the Roman Empire in Europe-and its bestial persecution of multitudes of Bible-believing Christians-will take place within the next seven to ten years of your life!" (The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, Feb. 1965, p. 48.)
"Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U.S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast' power could easily be launched perhaps as early as the spring of 1972-or earlier ...." (The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, May 1965, p. 45. )
"The 'Day of the Eternal'-a time foretold in more than thirty prophecies-is going to strike between 5 and 10 years from now!... I am not writing foolishly, but very soberly, on authority of the living Christ!" (The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1967, p. 47.)
"It doesn't take an understanding of certain 'Bible doctrine,' or necessary agreement with it, to admit to yourself candidly that what Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong was faithfully proclaiming back before, during and right at the close of World War II, and what he and others who have since come to join him in this great work of God have been proclaiming day in and day out ever since-is actually happening before your very eyes!" (The Plain Truth, Ted Armstrong, Nov. 1962, p. 21.)
"We do not set dates!... Yet in our human zeal and enthusiasm for getting this greatest mission on earth done, we have a few times come close to it or appeared to-and that we deeply regret...if we...appear to set a date, I feel I do not need to apologize!" (Tomorrow's World, Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1972, p. 31.)
smellsgood: Are those positive staments? With statements like "BIBLE PROPHECY indicates"
"if the dates which appear so DEFINITELY INDICATED by these PROPHECIES"
Scotsman: Show me a serious alternative to Jehovah's organisation? Jehovahs-witness.com??????? I do not think so.
smellsgood: If I were to show you positively that you were drinking toxins that were slowly debilitating your nervous system, would you so absurdly ask me if I had an "alternative" handy BEFORE you would aquiesce to quit drinking it, or would you quickly put the toxin down and then worry about the next move later. First get out off the plane that is sure to go down in flames before worrying how you are going to continue on your way.
This is just a ruse and a stumbling point that organizations with exclusive claims use anyway. Why is it Jehovah's Organization? Why did He choose the Society,,,and WHEN WAS THAT AGAIN?? :)
Scotsman: Its ironic really - the web address is www.jehovahs-witness.com and yet it is a club for non witnesses.
smellsgood: Its mostly ex-witnesses, but I myself have never been a JW for a day in my life. It is however, miles more informative that watchtower.org I assure you. :)
keep coming back Scotsman,
smellsgood
