Is Bigfoot real?

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  • Terry
    Terry

    Information that is loony or outrageous is circulated quickly in newspapers and magazines, tv shows and the internet. But, facts debunking such claims seem to vanish quickly as nobody is apparently interested in the mundane revelation that something is a hoax.

    The famous photo of Bigfoot which started this craze has been definitely put to rest as a hoax. The man who was in the suit has given up the story.

    This was covered in a recent issue of Skeptic magazine.

    Read it for yourself.

    Here below is a newspaper article revealing the particulars:

    Lovable trickster created a monster with Bigfoot hoax

    By Bob Young, Seattle Times staff reporter
    A tribute to the Bigfoot legacy

    Bigfoot is dead. Really.

    "Ray L. Wallace was Bigfoot. The reality is, Bigfoot just died," said Michael Wallace about his father, who died of heart failure Nov. 26 in a Centralia nursing facility. He was 84.

    The truth can finally be told, according to Mr. Wallace's family members. He orchestrated the prank that created Bigfoot in 1958.

    Some experts suspected Mr. Wallace had planted the footprints that launched the term "Bigfoot." But Mr. Wallace and his family had never publicly admitted the 1958 deed until now.

    "The fact is there was no Bigfoot in popular consciousness before 1958. America got its own monster, its own Abominable Snowman thanks to Ray Wallace," said Mark Chorvinsky, editor of Strange magazine and one of the leading proponents of the theory that Mr. Wallace fathered Bigfoot.

    Pranks and hoaxes were just part of Mr. Wallace's nature.

    "He'd been a kid all his life. He did it just for the joke and then he was afraid to tell anybody because they'd be so mad at him," said nephew Dale Lee Wallace, who said he has the alder-wood carvings of the giant humanoid feet that gave life to a worldwide phenomenon.

    It was in August 1958 in Humboldt County, Calif., that Jerry Crew, a bulldozer operator for Wallace Construction, saw prints of huge naked feet circling and walking away from his rig.

    The Humboldt Times in Eureka, Calif., ran a front-page story on the prints and coined the term "Bigfoot."

    According to family members, Mr. Wallace smirked. He had asked a friend to carve the 16-inch-long feet. Then he and his brother Wilbur had slipped them on and created the footprints as a prank, family members said.

    His joke soon swept the country, which was fascinated by rumors of Himalayan Abominable Snowmen in the 1950s, Chorvinsky said.

    "The Abominable Snowman was appropriated by Ray Wallace. It got into the press, took on a life of its own and next thing you know there's a Bigfoot, one of the most popular monsters in the world," he said.

    Mr. Wallace continued to milk the prank for years. He offered to sell a Bigfoot to Texas millionaire Tom Slick and then backed out when Slick made a serious bid. Mr. Wallace later put out a press release saying he wanted to buy a baby Bigfoot for $1 million, said Loren Coleman, who has written two books about Bigfoot. Mr. Wallace also cut a record of supposed Bigfoot sounds and printed posters of a Bigfoot sitting peaceably with other animals, said Chorvinsky, who received several hundred pages of correspondence from Mr. Wallace.

    But Mr. Wallace's chief contributions to bigfootery were films and photos he supposedly captured of the creature in the wild.

    There were depictions of Bigfeet eating elk and frogs, of a Bigfoot sitting on a log and of a Bigfoot munching on cereal.

    "Ray's contribution was study into the actual behavior of Bigfoot, what it eats, how it acts," said Ray Crowe, director of the International Bigfoot Society in Hillsboro, Ore.

    Chorvinsky believes the Wallace family's admission creates profound doubts about leading evidence of Bigfoot's existence: the so-called Patterson film, the grainy celluloid images of an erect apelike creature striding away from the movie camera of rodeo rider Roger Patterson in 1967. Mr. Wallace said he told Patterson where to go — near Bluff Creek, Calif. — to spot a Bigfoot, Chorvinsky said.

    "Ray told me that the Patterson film was a hoax, and he knew who was in the suit," Chorvinsky said.

    Michael Wallace said his father called the Patterson film "a fake" and said he had nothing to do with it. But he said his mother admitted she had been photographed in a Bigfoot suit. "He had several people he used in his movies," Michael Wallace said.

    Mr. Wallace never received proper credit in the Bigfoot community, Chorvinsky said. "He got it off the ground, and he kept getting glossed over. He's been consistently marginalized or ignored by authors," Chorvinsky said.

    Why? "Because it hurts the case for Bigfoot if you talk too much about Ray Wallace," he replied.

    The Wallace family's revelation does not faze some Bigfoot experts, and the debate about Bigfoot's existence rages on.

    "These rumors have been circulating for some time," said Jeff Meldrum, an associate professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University.

    Meldrum said he has casts of 40 to 50 footprints that he concludes, from their anatomical features, come from authentic unknown primates.

    "To suggest all these are explained by simple carved feet strapped to boots just doesn't wash," he said. Even if the Wallace family's claims are true, Meldrum added, there are historical accounts of Bigfoot-like creatures going back to the 1800s. "How do you account for that?"

    It's easy, replied Chorvinsky; the historical accounts were mistakes, myths or hoaxes. "I would like to see the evidence beyond the anecdotal. Jeff Meldrum's job is show us the beef, something beyond old newspaper articles."

    As for Meldrum's claim about authentic footprints, Chorvinsky said: "Jeff Meldrum is not an expert in creating hoaxes. I was a professional magician and special-effects film director; anything can be faked."

    Michael Wallace said family members knew about his father's hoax but never let on.

    "The family just sat back and grinned," he said. "He didn't mean to hurt anyone."

    To them, it was just another one of Mr. Wallace's jokes. Like the time he dropped a powerful firecracker down the chimney of a bunkhouse while loggers played cards inside. Or the time he convinced his crew that wild cats with bushy tails were living in forest treetops.

    To his family, Bigfoot was a small part of Mr. Wallace.

    A rugged rogue with a big laugh and generous heart, Mr. Wallace was born in Clarksdale, Mo., and came West as a boy. He spent much of his adult life taming the country. He built part of Highway 1 in coastal California, he cut trees when they were so big that trucks carried one-log loads, and he opened a free petting zoo near Chehalis.

    In 1942, he married Elna Sorensen and moved around the Pacific Northwest as his company built logging roads and cut timber. His four adopted sons spent much of their childhood in logging camps.

    "Sometimes we lived in the middle of nowhere. You couldn't ask for a better life as a kid," said Michael, his oldest son, now a home builder in Castle Rock.

    In 1961, he settled down in Toledo, Lewis County. Shortly after, he opened a free zoo, the Wild Animal Farm, off Interstate 5. It stayed open for about 13 years. His wife ran an adjacent hamburger stand to help support the zoo. "I didn't have normal pets," said Michael Wallace. "I had cougars, raccoons, deer and bear cubs."

    Mr. Wallace would sometimes give free hamburgers and milkshakes to families that looked poor, his son said.

    "He loved children and wanted to adopt every kid he saw. He was a good provider. If he wasn't playing a practical joke, he was always working."

    Nephew Dale Lee Wallace added: "He always told us to believe in the good Lord and stay married. He was always preaching things like that."

    His son is convinced Mr. Wallace is still relishing his biggest practical joke. "I know he's just cracking up," said Michael Wallace.

    Mr. Wallace was preceded in death by son Gary, who died in a logging accident. Besides his wife and son Michael, Mr. Wallace is survived by sons, Larry, of Winlock, and Richard, of Toledo; 10 grandchildren, six great-grandchildren and numerous nieces and nephews.

    Remembrances may be donated to Children's Hospital & Regional Medical Center in Seattle.

    From: Seattle Times, Thursday, December 05, 2002.

  • Terry
    Terry

    The Bigfoot Legend Lives

    Michael Dennett


    Within the span of a few years the Bigfoot community has lost its two primary proponents, René Dahinden and Grover Krantz. Most of the remaining “old guard” have retired. Revelations of hoaxing by the late Ray Wallace and Greg Long’s book The Making of Bigfoot (questioning the credibility of the famous Patterson film) would seemingly have dealt a death blow to the legend.

    But promotion of the giant North American bipedal creature, also known as Sasquatch, seems to be in resurgence. This burst of activity comes from a new generation of Bigfoot proponents. Prominent among them are author and educator Loren Coleman and Idaho State University’s Jeffrey Meldrum. Christopher Murphy’s 2004 book Meet the Sasquatch has gathered considerable media attention and Daniel Perez, with his Bigfoot Times newsletter, has become the movement’s chronicler.

    To those reporting stories about the big guy we must add the “field researchers.” In the forefront are Richard Noll, discoverer of the only “full body cast of the Bigfoot monster,” and C. Thomas Biscardi. Recently Biscardi and his Great American Bigfoot Research Organization caught media attention by claiming the capture of a Bigfoot. By the time I contacted Great American’s publicity agent, Robert Barrows, the assertion had already evaporated. Barrows’s casual explanation: “Tom [Biscardi] believed a woman’s declaration she had a Sasquatch,” though later she turned out to “be crazy.”

    The Bigfoot community was not so nonchalant. Dan Perez headlined a short article about the incident: “Biscardi’s Bull Crap.” The article, written by Loren Coleman, [1] said Biscardi “fumbled along” when interviewed about the alleged capture “first saying it [Bigfoot] was 800 pounds, then telling [the interviewer] that he hadn’t said how much it weighed, only that it was over eight feet tall.” Coleman elaborated: Biscardi “hadn’t even seen it . . . but [somehow] knew it was seventeen years old.” He further warned of Biscardi’s “checkered Marxian past,” a reference to Bigfooter Ivan Marx, [2] not Groucho Marx.

    Yet the Great American Web site still proclaimed: “Imminent Capture [of Bigfoot] Anticipated.” I asked Biscardi, who bills himself as a “world famous Bigfoot researcher,” how he might bag the monster when others had been unsuccessful.

    “Because nobody has the technical equipment, or the experience we have,” he told me in a telephone interview from Happy Camp, California. They had, he assured me, “identified a migration pattern” for the creature and with the “most powerful stun gun available,” they would catch a Sasquatch alive. “There would be no killing [of a creature] and after science had thirty days to examine the animal,” Biscardi would “release it back to the wild.”

    More revealing was his boast their cameras had seen an encounter between “a bear and Bigfoot on 12 September” [2005 near Happy Camp] and broadcast this via their subscription-only Webcam (see the December 2005 Briefs Briefs). Later when I asked for information about the encounter story the editor of the Happy Camp News, Linda Martin, a sort of pit-bull defender of the Biscardi expedition (because it was bringing much need attention and cash to the community), gave a different story. According to her account, someone claimed they saw the encounter via Webcam with the Bigfoot approaching the bear from the nearby spring, but when “we looked for this incident on the video archive and saw the bear walking down the path—but no Bigfoot . . . in fact we could find nothing coming out of the spring.” Martin was oblivious to the fact that once again Biscardi was flippantly making extraordinary yet unsupported assertions. Oddly, when we spoke on the phone Martin had attacked Coleman’s credibility by saying he had misappropriated another Bigfooter’s photos. [3]

    Brandon Tennant, a protégée of Jeff Meldrum who is organizing a Bigfoot Conference to be held in Pocatello, Idaho in 2006 said he thought Biscardi “might be giving the field a bad name,” something — considering the past history of Bigfoot research — that would be quite an achievement.

    Biscardi told me he has Web subscribers in sixty-five countries, has had great response to his efforts and doesn’t care if others, especially those not “in the field,” criticize him. He called Coleman and Perez “bottom feeders.” But at least tepid support for Biscardi can be found. Veteran Bigfoot buff Jon-Erik Beckjord, who on his Web site compares himself to Galileo, Pasteur, and the Wright Brothers, says Great American should continue the effort. “They may get some images,” Beckjord said. “But not a live creature?” I asked. “Of course not, and you know why,” he replied. Having been exposed to Beckjord’s theories I answered: “Because Bigfoot is inter-dimensional?” “Yes, or possibly a time-shifter,” and therefore when injured or killed it would return to its own dimension or time.

    If Biscardi is really on the trail of the monster, by the time you read this, you will have already seen the big story on television.

    When I talked with Biscardi I promised him I would mention his Web site in my article. As others were also helpful I would like to give their contact information as well.

    Notes:
    1. Coleman is not always as combative and was most generous with information when I queried him for this article.
    2. John Green once called the late Ivan Marx the biggest “yarn-spinner in California.” For more about Marx’s dubious activities see Sasquatch by Don Hunter and René Dahinden, Signet 1973, chapter 8.
    3. For more on this issue see Bigfoot Times, newsletter, October-November 2005 issue, front page.

    About the Author

    Michael Dennett has followed the legend of Bigfoot for many years. His most recent article on Bigfoot appeared in the January/February 2005 issue of the Skeptical Inquirer.
  • Oroborus21
    Oroborus21

    We prefer Yeti-Americans, thank you.

    -Eduardo

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    The legend of Big Foot is often discredited by that guy in California who admitted to faking it. Yet the legend existed before him, he just tried to cash in on it with a joke. Often the case though, people point to these examples to show their distrust of the legend and not the history of the Indians who mentioned him and the early settlers who said they had sited him. So while I am not ignorant to the man who faked things, and the people who faked that video, I am also aware that there are other examples out there, that can not be so easily explained. I have just not seen him, or evidence of him and I would like too one day. I just feel that with all our modern technology and tools. We would have something by now, if he was real.

  • skyking
    skyking

    I love for some day in the future for Bigfoot to be proved real. But in all fairness just because people claim to have seen him does not prove he is real. Many culture's have legends of Dragons yet there is no Dragon nor have there ever been any. What makes me question Big Foot is the lack of DNA Proof, why has none been brought forward?

    I live as I have said in Idaho and know people that are friends of mine that are very reliable people that have claimed to of seen Big Foot. This is the only reason I am not forsure. I need proof in order to believe for myself. One thing is for sure if he is not real many very credible people have had sightings that either made them up or their imaginations ran away with them.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Yes..And F**king scary when your on thier turf!.Didn`t like it,don`t want to do it again...OUTLAW

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    I heard they don't smell very good.

    When Andy goes into one of his sudden dark moods, I call him The Yeti. Even wrote a poem about it one time.

  • frozen one
    frozen one

    Yes Bigfoot is real. Bigfoot weighs 28,000 pounds and stands over 15 feet tall. If you encounter Bigfoot, get out of the way!!

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    I was born in Missouri.

    Show me.

    Me, too!!

    And what is a Fisher??

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Show me!..???..LOL!!..Be carefull what you ask for...OUTLAW

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