Should I warn this householder of the danger?

by SirNose586 23 Replies latest jw experiences

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  R6Laser

  Further, the man was concerned because his wife "thinks we are a cult." I had never heard a householder this informed about the witnesses!

  You must be living under a rock then. Most people already feel like this towards the witnesses, nothing new.
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  drew sagan

  Going back to him by yourself sure would leave him with a very interesting impression, as well as a deeper understanding of things he only could touch upon at the door. I think it would be interesting to go back to that person. I myself have thought about going back to a few people that where interested to give them the other half of my story.
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  fullofdoubtnow

  I don't think this householder needs much warning, he sounds pretty clued up on the jws already, but maybe directing him to one of the Quotes sites or silentlambs would be good. The brother who called on him might take even more of a beating next time if the guy is more aware of some of the doctrinal flip flops and scandals in the wts.
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  Justice-One

  "the man's thinking needs to be readjusted."

  AKA Brainwashing.
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  XJW4EVR

  "the man's thinking needs to be readjusted."

  This struck me also. I wish I had a dime for every time I heard that come from a J-Dub.
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  SirNose586

  Not to offend you since I don't know - Why do you choose to live the way of a double agent. Even that is offensive to say to you, sorry. I think you should reconsider being "In the Truth" (the word truth is an English term and English dictionaries do not allow for that use, how can one be in something like "truth"?) and wanting people to be un-misled. May I suggest: QUIT. Give NO reason.

  I find myself in the difficult position of being an MS and well-respected in the JW community, yet finding the catalyst to willingly leave good family and good friends. Unlike many here, I have not experienced anything that could make me say, "That's IT! I'm turning in my DA letter tomorrow!" I'm sorry to say, that hasn't happened yet. And so I must plan my escape on my own terms.

  I have to move out and become financially independent before I can do this. Being that I live in San Diego, this will take me a bit longer than others to accomplish. If I were to up and quit tomorrow, I'd be kicked to the curb. The lack of someone who could put me up for a bit were I to be kicked out encourages me to wait until I'm able to move out before I make any waves. Perhaps you're made of sterner stuff than I, but I don't plan on letting the bottom drop out of everything.

  So do I want to leave? Absolutely. And if I left tomorrow? I'd be screwed, which is just what they would want. I understand your viewpoint on leaving ASAP, but this is what I have to do if I want to have a much better chance of leaving and staying out, rather than leaving then coming back with my tail between my legs because I couldn't hack it on my own. My automotive career needs to get off the ground. This is going to take some time; tools are very expensive.

  As for being a "double agent," well don't worry about that. I've learned how to think one thing and say another very well my whole life.

  You must be living under a rock then. Most people already feel like this towards the witnesses, nothing new.

  You must have made some assumptions about my 'hood then. If people where you live have access to the internet, care about news stories, or read the newspaper, then people in your community are LIGHT YEARS ahead of folks where I live. If you were to ask in my 'hood, "Did you see the news last night?", they would not know what you are talking about. I always tried that as a presentation opener, and it never got anywhere. Nobody knew. Nobody cared. Nobody reads. Outsiders come to my congregation and love the territory, because the people are so poor and naïve, the message of playing with a panda forever sells pretty easily. Now, this is not to say no one in my congregation has ever heard "I think you guys are a cult"--but this was the first time I had heard it. Maybe the pioneers hear it and don't talk about it, but I go out a few times for show, so I don't really hear that. You're more likely to find people who just find the dubs annoying. This man was the first one to actually do some research, and I'd like to show him that he was right on the money. I'm off for two days, so I'll be dropping by his place....
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  Abandoned

  I'm sorry to say, that hasn't happened yet. And so I must plan my escape on my own terms.

  You got sucked in against your will so I'm glad you're leaving on your terms.
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  Mysterious

  It sounds like the householder has things well in hand to me personally. Maybe your time could better be spent warning others who are more unaware of the dangers.
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  darth frosty

  hang in there sirnose586. I know it can be hard to wait but it does have its advantages. A good example to look at is richie rich and stillawitness. these are two young people who came here and found friends and resources to help them as they planed there exit.

  Not everyone can just say hey you guy's are full of crap, i'm out. At least you know what you are dealing with.
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  SirNose586

  It sounds like the householder has things well in hand to me personally. Maybe your time could better be spent warning others who are more unaware of the dangers.

  True. Now that I have a little hindsight of the situation, I'm thinking dropping something off would probably not work out to my favor. I don't know if I could trust the guy to not mention where he got the stuff...and there's really no margin for error here.

  As it is, tomorrow is jam-packed with errands, so I can't drop by during the day. But I'm sure the man will dismiss Brother B in time; after all, Brother B is going to try to "re-adjust his thinking," which will set off some alarms in his head.