by AK - Jeff 47 Replies latest jw friends
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(THE WATCHTOWER) has made a deadly mistake, at a very unfortunate place in the stream of time.
I see hatred from JEHOVAH toward the Faithful slave and it's governing body, while the tone of the WATHCTOWER'S response toward joining the U.N is full of deception. That, my friend, is the spirit of the world, not that of God, Jehovah.
JEHOVAH will not miss the WATCHTOWER and will not be missed. It is a crushing gain!
That letter reminds me of scripture:
Isaiah 44:9, 18-20 All who make idols are nothing, and what they treasure does not profit. Their witnesses do not see or know [anything], so they will be put to shame. Such people do not comprehend and cannot understand, for He has shut their eyes so they cannot see, and their minds so they cannot understand. No one reflects, no one has the perception or insight to say, “I burned half of it in the fire, I also baked bread on its coals, I roasted meat and ate. I will make something detestable with the rest of it, and I will bow down to a block of wood.” He feeds on ashes. [His] deceived mind has led him astray, and he cannot deliver himself, or say, “Isn’t there a lie in my right hand?”
The Watchtower Society shoves Jesus into a corner and brings something else to the forefront; the 'Faithful Discreet Slave' as represented by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.Idolatry is the worst of sins and deceives now just as it did in the 8th century B.C.
Isaiah 44:9, 18-20 shows idolators do not comprehend and cannot understand though they believe themselves to be wise and progressive.
The Watchtower Socity has led JW's to digress into moral and spiritual darkness with their false teachings about Jesus.
So AK-Jeff, how do you know my dad?
On a serious note, I had a very similar letter mailed to me when he found out that I had moved on from the JW pablum. It's all very sick, their apologetics of a corrupt and defiled religious organization, that is.
You wrote: "Letter from a dear friend and elder."
Two letters huh? This must be the letter from the elder. Where's the letter from the dear friend?
I will miss you. It is a crushing loss!
Love - Dale
He understands the concept of "crushing loss" as much as he understands "love."
Sad but true-if we're not with'em we're dead.
Many of you have hit the nail squarely with your comments. The words I posted here are just the final few in an entire letter filled with delusional thinking and basic ignorace and refusal to consider the actual contents of my letters to him. Here is how I interpret what he said - my thoughts in Red.
You have made a deadly mistake, at a very unfortunate place in the stream of time.
Is this the same 'unfortunate place in the stream of time' in which 1874, 1914, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975, were elevated to doomsday opportunities? And what is my 'deadly mistake'? Acceptance that Jesus is more than a recruiting tool? Belief that my personal life and spirituality is tied to more than 4th grade level writings espousing the same point of view now for 120 years, and always wrong?
I see love from the Faithful slave and it's governing body, while the tone of your letter and the action you have said you will take are full of hatred. That, my friend, is the spirit of the world, not that of my Faithful Friend and God, Jehovah.
Why is my recognition of both doctrinal misteps and intentional error, combined with moral interpetude and ethical duplicity, catagorized as 'hatred' toward anyone? Why does that become the 'spirit of the world'?
I will miss you. It is a crushing loss!
Not! You are willing to cast me aside as so much sh*t on your shoe, not because I have morphed into an ugly moth, but because I have chosen to emerge from the cocoon at all and see reality for what it is. The loss felt is not honest, for honest concern would prompt others to come and see why one would reject his/her religion after 40 years of believing it heart and soul, wouldn't it?
Love - Dale
This was curious to me - LOVE is a salutation used to convey personal interest, concern, depth. Yet his letter was a divorcing of any human contact and future interest in me. My wife made comment on this immediately - 'Why did he finish it that way?'
PS- Killing people at Armageddon? Matt 24:37-41 Is the way of Jehovah not adjusted right?
Clear mixing of entities here - When I read the Bible, I see a very different perspective than this - I never once questioned God's 'adjustment' in any letter I wrote to him or anyone. He clearly obfusicated the point with this finial to his letter, and demonstated, if any doubt ever existed that his God has become the Watchtower, though clearly that distinction is so clouded for him he has no idea of it's reality.
Thanx all for your thoughts on this. I am not feeling any pain over it really. I have accepted the relegated position they have attempted to place me in for three years now. What they object to is my refusal to submit to such. Jgnat suggested an annual card. Nice idea, 'cept I hate to waste the stamp, most likely it will just end up in the rubbish bin.
Jeff
Hello Jeff. Sorry you have to experience reality shock mid life, Now you know what the fabric of your friendship was made of. There was a song that came out in my youth maybe yours too, I am a rock by Paul Simon, That kind of describes life at least my life. I dont know if it works for you or not. In this life I've had many acquaintences but few friends if any. I got my wife of 33 years. For 33 years she has been my friend. Well see what tomorrow brings tomorrow.
Hello Jeff. Sorry you have to experience reality shock mid life, Now you know what the fabric of your friendship was made of. There was a song that came out in my youth maybe yours too, I am a rock by Paul Simon, That kind of describes life at least my life. I dont know if it works for you or not. In this life I've had many acquaintences but few friends if any. I got my wife of 33 years. For 33 years she has been my friend. Well see what tomorrow brings tomorrow.
I have many of P Simon's albums. One line is 'A rock feels no pain. And an island never cries.' I currently have many acquaintances, but honestly not too many 'close friends'. But I am working on it, brother. It is indeed a sad reality to find that your entire society vanishes when one decides to think and reason [the only sin I am guilty of IMO]. I too, have a wife of 32 [going on 33] years. She is my best friend.
Your post makes me feel a real connection. Seems like life over 50 starts getting filled up with 'checkups', 'tests', 'minor surgeries', and a lot of things start to change - loved ones leave us, and we look around and start to add up the losses, ask questions, and for many it leads here. I met a lady today at the local 'Big box' store, who knew me, due to the blessing of looking about 20 years younger than I am, but I could not figure out who that old wrinkled lady who knew me so well was. The picture in my mind was a youthful skinned, teenie bopper who used to run with my sister. In many ways the Paul Simon song you mention seems like it should have been a hit 5 or 6 years back. It was a hit when she had youthful exuberance, as did you and I. Ah - memories - like the caudles of my mind. [Hint also a 70's great.]
Jeff
(((Jeff)))
I am sorry that you received such a response, but I suppose it's not that much of a surprise. It serves to illustrate the depth of mind control the org has over it's followers. He closes his hateful letter with "love, Dale", and probably thinks he was being loving towards you in sending it, in the same way that those who shun us are taught to see shunning as an act of love.
I see no hope for such people, they are so deeply indoctrinated by the wts. Thankfully most of us on here have escaped, and are on our way to recovering from the years of indoctrination.
Linda
