Has anyone else heard about this North American Union?

by *jeremiah* 47 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • jayhawk1
    jayhawk1

    Meximericanida could happen...

    infowars is a good site

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Hi Jeremiah!

    Great thread, and you're welcome for the "research" ;-) I've got over 3,500 posts on the NWO-subject [here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/ ] since about May 2003 forward when I quit hanging out here so much and went to educate myself about what's coming down the pipes! You were way ahead of me in your learning since you started 12 years ago. Yowza. I only learned a few things about the Illuminati back in the early 1980s from a JW-chiropractor in town who had, what I now believe were the "famous" Myron Fagan tapes. -- After that initial exposure, however, I never heard any more until around 2002. Even so, back in the late 1980s/early 1990s when I first heard the term "New World Order" on the TV-news, my ears really perked up and I even mentioned to a "worldly" girlfriend at the time that, "Hmmmm, that's a term very similar to what the JW's use..." Her neice was a JW, too, and so she was surprised as well.

    As for the 10 nations, I've also heard one other explanation and that is since everything having to do with the end times CENTERS AROUND ISRAEL, that the 10 nations could be 10 EU-nations round about the Mediterranean Sea (that's a Hilton Sutton interpretation, he's a Pentecostal prophecy teacher in his 80s). It makes sense, too. But even so, there's no doubt the world-handlers have a clear plan to create 10 super-state/world-regions, so Sutton may be totally off base, I don't know. But I DO agree w/him that EVERYTHING to do with the final years centers on Israel.

    Re: your comments about how the JWs fit in to all of this, I agree 100% and sent you a PM about that (along with a zillion other thoughts, lol). Funny because that same thought had been weighing on me a lot lately, since about this summer. and I began thinking I should pay closer attention to what the WT is up to, as whatever they are being told to do, could be a mini-sign re: the overall world plan, albeit I imagine the WT will be part of the FALSE plan, not the REAL one. Yes, according to one of my favorite websites who do extensive research [ http://watch.pair.com/index.html ] , there's a COUNTERFEIT plan by the world handlers which they will implement first, to double-deceive people, esp. Christians:

    PLAN "A" :

    * A fake World Order -- probably the UN
    * A fake World Ruler/Antichrist -- possibly Prince Charles, or Prince William (he'll be 30 in 2012, another pivotal year according to some)
    * A fake False Prophet -- the Pope
    * A fake Mark of the Beast -- the RFID or MMEA implantable microchips
    * A fake rebuilt Temple in Israel -- built on Mt. Hermon
    * A fake nation of Israel -- ie, the current one which is run by the Illuminati/Masons/Priory of Zion
    * A fake Aliyah -- the return of the Jews to Israel from Russia and round about since the late 1880s (the Masonic Zionists want them all there to hand them over to the antichrist and destroy them.

    PLAN "B" :

    The TRUE Fulfillment looks more like this (according to the above website):
    * True New World Order -- run by the Priory of Zion, not the UN
    * True World Ruler/Antichrist -- possibly the current head honcho of the Priory, Thomas Plantard
    * True False Prophet -- I forget his name, some very old Greek Orthodox guy, if I remember correctly
    * True Mark of the Beast -- occult symbol (hexagram or pyramid or "X") branded or tattoo'd on people as part of the occult Luciferian Initiation
    * True Aliyah -- does not occur until Jesus himself sends his angels to the four corners of the earth to gather his "chosen" [Israel] back to their land).
    * True Nation of Israel -- the remnant of 1/3 whom the Lord will spare during the Great Tribulation
    * True Temple will not be rebuilt until Jesus returns, and it will be on its correct location, Mt. Zion

    Whew! Try keeping that all squared away in your mind! ;-) I'm going from memory, so I may not have every detail exactly correct. Either way, the time is getting close for either Plan A/B if they want to get the show on the road...

    From what I understand, WW3 will not begin until the world-elite have all their ducks lined up in a row, and ready to go. And this won't happen until Israel finishes the separation of her populations, has finished the wall, etc. And they keep inching that backward, then forward, then backward, etc. But whenever it is done, Then BOOM. And then "a" world ruler will come forth out of the ashes, the world will be so traumatized from that conflagration they will do anything they are asked just to survive, and that world ruler (the real or the fake?) will negotiate the peace covenant with Israel, and therein begins the 7-year tribulation.

    We still "see hazy" but I have a whole lot better understanding than I had 3-1/2 year ago, and I'm thankful for that! ;-)

    /abbagail

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Meximericanida - LOL, cute!

    Also pretty good info there from Wikipedia, Jeremiah.

    And now More for the "serious readers" out there... ;-) Some quotes and lots of links coming up...

    Re: North American Union by 2009 or 2010... one of the elite groups themselves, the Council of Foreign Relations, put out a report last year saying 2010:

    Press Release
    Trinational Call for a North American
    Economic and Security Community by 2010
    March 14, 2005
    <http://www.cfr.org/pub7914/press_release/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.php>

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    Other articles on the same subject:

    Mexico ambassador: We need N. American Union in 8 years
    <http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=FB007B5C&GroupID=AA006SGW#3>

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    [...] To look into the face of these global elites is to look into the face of unmitigated greed, avarice and treachery.
    "The Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community..." ( Building a North American Community, Council on Foreign Relations, 2005, p. 2) . Don't underestimate the global elite's ability to meet their own deadlines! [...]

    [...] Read the below indepth print-article --or-- listen to the 3-hour radio interview here:
    "Toward a North American Union" - Patrick Wood on The Roth Show. Because this was a three hour show, we were able to cover a lot of ground, and take some calls from listeners. This is a must-listen program if you want to have a better understanding of the proposed North American Union:
    <http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=5&pid=7>

    Toward a North American Union
    August 25, 2006 - Volume 6, Issue 5
    By: Patrick Wood, Editor, The August Review
    <http://www.augustreview.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=printpub&tid=4&pid=14>

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    THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
    N. American students trained for 'merger'
    10 universities participate in 'model Parliament' in Mexico to simulate 'integration' of 3 nations
    Posted: September 25, 2006
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52104

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    THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
    Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
    Mexico, Canada partnership underway with no authorization from Congress
    <http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50618>
    Posted: June 13, 2006
    By Jerome R. Corsi

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    US, Canada and Mexico One Country in 2010?
    <http://www.threeworldwars.com/blog/>
    Friday, March 25, 2005

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    The secretive Bilderbergers also are calling for the North American Union:

    Snipped from: World War Three Newsletter July 2004
    From: "Michael B. Haupt" <[email protected]>
    Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:40:42 -0400 (EDT)
    Subject: WW3 News Update for you, masoud!

    Email not displaying correctly? View online at
    http://threeworldwars.com/news/archive.htm (http://www.threeworldwars.com/news/).

    Further Internationalization Confirmed at Bilderberg
    Bilderberg Conference Notes (http://www.bilderberg.org/2004.htm)

    Bilderbergers remain united in their long-term goal to strengthen the role the UN plays in regulating global relations, with the ultimate goal of creating a One World Government. This year's conference agenda included the following:

    * British elites are to press on with membership in the European Union despite growing domestic opposition.

    * The Free Trade Area of the Americas should be enacted and include the entire Western Hemisphere, excluding Cuba until Fidel Castro is replaced. It should then evolve into the "American Union" as a carbon copy of the European Union.

    * An "Asian-Pacific Union" is to emerge as the third great superstate, neatly dividing the world into three great regions for the administrative convenience of banking and corporate elites. The United States and other international financial institutions should facilitate and administrate these global trade pacts.

    Bilderbergers have, for some time, argued for three global currencies - the euro for Europe, the dollar for the American Union and another for the "Asian-Pacific Union."

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    Sorry I don't know how to make indented separate quotes, nor bold, etc. To do html formatting by hand would take me forever. I'm on a Mac and don't know how to do it otherwise. Sorry about that.

    /abbagail

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    To go along with the North American Union, the country will be side-swiped by the Huge AFTA Superstate HIGHWAY(s)...

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    AFTA Super Highway Map
    <http://FulfilledProphecy.Com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=14454>
    October 2, 2006
    This map is a conceptualization of the Super Highways now underway to connect the United States, Canada, and Mexico to help bring about the creation of a North American Union similar to the European Union. http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/printer_4218.shtml

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    SUPERSTATE-HIGHWAY - PRIVATE PROPERTY - NATURE CONSERVANCY: The Bad Guys Are In FULL SWING
    This article sheds even more "light" on why the Supreme Court wanted to pass the NO MORE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. Wow. I missed this 6/18/05-CuttingEdge Newsletter until now which had this fascinating update on the North American Union SUPER HIGHWAY.... <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/2598>

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    Bush Administration Quietly Plans NAFTA Super Highway
    http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15497
    by Jerome R. Corsi
    Posted Jun 12, 2006

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    PRIVATE TOLL ROADS: CONGRESS Puts Plan in Gear
    US Congress seen paving way for private toll roads http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/30/congress_seen_paving_w ay_for_private_toll_roads/
    By Daniel Sorid - June 30, 2005 SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) -
    The next road you travel -- and pay a toll ...
    <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/2610>

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    "As we are arguing about foreign policy, most Americans are blissfully ignorant that our leaders are internationalizing our roadway system!"
    snipped from:
    WEEKLY UPDATES FROM Cutting Edge Ministries
    06/18/2005 <http://cuttingedge.org/newsletters/061805.html>
    Archives: <http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/Archive-index.html>

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    /abbagail

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    This section, and those following, are respectfully submitted in reply to those who said they don't believe it will ever happen...

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    Besides dismissing the enclosed news reports and plans from the mouths of the very elite who intend to bring it about, you are also dismissing several prophetic points (and these are not provided from a JW-frame of mind, far from it! lol):

    * Prophecy says it WILL happen as the result of evil power-hungry men (10 toes of Daniel's image at the end of the age; 10 kings who give their power to the antichrist/beast for one hour in Revelation = these 10-Super States/Regions of the world)

    * This plan for world domination is not simply the whims of mere men. It is the same satanic plan originally attempted at the Tower of Babel. It will be the same "mighty hunters in opposition to the LORD" with help from THEIR "god" Lucifer, who will bring it about (Compare Ps. 2), but it won't last long, praise God, as the Lord will see to that:

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    by Dore Gold <http://www.parable.com/cbn/item.asp?sku=1400054753>

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    The UN plays a big role but it is NOT the beast...

    [...]
    * Church Age: The occult societies set up various experimental federations: United States, U.S.S.R., League of Nations, United Nations. The United States was created specifically as a forerunner to the United Nations. Democracy will be the pretext for the coming world kingdom.
    * Tribulation: The world federation of all nations will be created known as the New World Order. At mid-Tribulation, the U.N. will be replaced by a global kingdom in an attempt to go back to the future - to the days of Noah, before Genesis 10, when there were no nations as such.
    * Great Tribulation: The Antichrist will rule over the world federation of continents. (See next section: Regionalism 10.B.) The Order of the Temple and the Prieuré de Sion are the hidden leadership behind this coming world kingdom.
    [...]
    Source: <http://watch.pair.com/new-government.html>

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    "read good books" said it about "sounds like world dictatorship to me." Exactly, Mr. Good-Books! ;-) You may like this article:

    Introduction to Conspiratorial History: <http://www.threeworldwars.com/introduction-to-conspiratorial-history.htm>

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    Woodsman said: "Many of the schemes the conspiracy theorists point out are evil but there is nothing inherently evil about extending national borders to make just one nation, the nation of Earth."

    Abbagail replies: Maybe not in the eyes of men, but evidently God has always had ANOTHER opinion, ie, no world government except His Own. Therefore, to Him the idea IS "evil" (See Psalms 2 again) because He knows from whence it originates (the same Devil, yes, who was there in the Garden and wanted total power and control at the start, and he hasn't give up). Likewise, these guys don't want a "one earth nation" without their having Total Power and Control over the earth and mankind. That's their whole point. It's megalomania. It isn't like they are going to allow us to all go our merry way... "Man dominates man to his own injury" ... their evil plan also calls for FORCED DEPOPULATION of the planet so Mother Earth/Mother Gaia can supposedly "regenerate herself" w/o the burden of the masses hogging up all the resources, and those who are left will only be allowed to live in certains areas with the rest of the land left to "re-wild" itself. Do googles for DEPOPULATION and/or RE-WILDING, etc. I forgot to grab links and references on these two subjects but I have folders full for each, if interested, just holler! ;-)

    /abbagail

  • heathen
    heathen

    It's an interesting theory but I don't think the US plans to stop with just north america , they already started the east asian invasion in case you haven't noticed. The US and britain want to play judge jury and executioner all over the world . Alex Jones has a police state theory for the US alone but I think the picture is way bigger than that. Alex Jones keeps leaving out the co conspirators in europe. BTW I hate the idea of globalization it just means they can piss more of our tax money away on things that will not help anybody but the rich and greedy.

  • sf
    sf

    A few of you may be interested in this site as well:

    http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Continuing, for the "strong at heart"... ;-)

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    Woodsman wrote: "If the US government began to abuse the powers they have and start dragging away our cow buddies, people would react." -- and-- " If they ever tried rounding up ordinary citizens and executing them for simply disagreeing with the government civil unrest and war would erupt."

    Abbagail replies: There won't be TIME to react when the "midnight raids" begin. Have you heard of the RED & BLUE LISTS which are implemented AT NIGHT, and the "Cremation Trucks," etc.? See below. As for civil unrest and war erupting, it probably will, AFTER the "enemies of the state" have already been rounded up in the middle of the night. An "American Revolution" is part of the plan, a/k/a Civil War II, a 2nd Inquisition, etc.

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    RED & BLUE LISTS (which are you on?) & CREMATION TRUCKS:

    From the article: The Coming American Holocaust
    <http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm>

    [...]

    Next, Mr. Sea elaborated on the two categories the RED and BLUE Lists, and what they mean: "The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but at a later date — within six weeks of martial law declaration. There are no ‘re-education’ plans for either category — just execution. When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they’ll take you from your home at night — probably around 4 a.m. — and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you’ll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter=97 all black, unmarked and illegally operating under the Treaty on Open Skies. Then they’ll fly you to one of 38 cities where you’ll board a 747, 737, or 727. "You may be taken straight to a temporary detention facility. When you’re RED listed, you’ll be taken to a red camp. Then you’ll be executed.

    "At some point, martial law will be declared. (Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus — to have a trial by jury — is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail for a limited time,) I suspect there will be a major outage, or some other crisis which will be the reason to declare martial law. At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA. Be advised that it has been proven (in Wyoming and at least one other location) that the black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they’re executing black operations missions (i.e., in your area). This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you.

    "In June of 1996, an FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List would be picked up ‘within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.’ This parallels the Nazi RED/BLUE List policy almost to the letter. The parallel Nazi plan was published by Heinz Hohne in his 1966 book, The Story of the Nazi SS: The Order of the Death’s Head. (I’ve read this book and sent it to Jack McLamb.)

    [...]

    abbagail says: FWIW, I hear there's also a "Green List" for those who will be taken to slave labor camps; and on 5/14/04 I posted a snippet from CuttingEdge.org to my group:

    [...] The highest priority is the "Red List", on which all Christians are placed who care enough about Jesus to claim church-giving and tithes on income tax forms ... [...]

    See also:

    Cremation trucks operating in Western US?
    <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Captain_nibiru/message/7544?l=1>

    [...]

    Source further states this indicates that Red List pickups have begun prior to actual martial law
    declaration.

    [...]

    The first engagement revealed there were armed French troops, along with armed German and Chinese Intelligence agents. Source reported that the foreign personnel were equipped with thermal imaging, Infra-red, and night vision equipment. This means the Red List pickups are being done at night; presumably on targets that are known to be “passive”.

    Source states that Red Lists (for immediate extermination) are being “revised”, that is, more names are being added to the “useless eater” category, since it is felt that many who were considered to be n“re-educatable” must now be added to the Red or Blue Lists.

    [...]

    They have foreign troops and night ops equipment. Deduction: Red List pickup operations are NOW being run ---- at night. [...]
    Be in prayer and/or be ready --- at night.
    [...]

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    Where will these people be taken?

    See next section below...

    Blessings,
    abbagail

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Hey heathen, you are absolutely right. The New World Order will extend world-wide, not just the North American Continent, but that was what Jeremiah posted about.

    And, hey, SF, I LOVE DJ Meyer of Last Trumpet Ministries and his newsletter. I actually tried to reach his site earlier today and it wouldn't show up. Glad to see he's still "out there," thanks!

    /AG

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    CIVILIAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS

    ...for the All-American "Red & Blue Listed Terrorists" (which includes most all of us... a self-test on this coming up later)...

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    Nightline Daily E-Mail
    May 13, 2004
    TONIGHT'S FOCUS: It's a secret prison system. There are no inspections by outside agencies. No legal status. It's not even clear who's in it, except that they are the worst of the worst. And it's run by the CIA.
    [...]
    From: Nightline <[email protected]>
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 9:50:05 -0700
    Subject: NIGHTLINE: The Disappeared

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    FM 3-19.40
    MILITARY POLICE INTERNMENT/RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS
    Headquarters
    Department of the Army
    Washington, DC, 1 August 2001
    <http://web.archive.org/web/20040202213118/http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-19.40/toc.htm>

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    Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
    Attorney general shows himself as a menace to liberty.
    <http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story27.htm>
    By Jonathan Turley, Los Angeles Times
    Also commentary here: <http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1691.cfm>

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    State-By-State Index Of Potential US Concentration Camps
    CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA
    <http://www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm>

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    Long Expected Roundup of Dissident Citizens Began Today in America
    <http://www.threeworldwars.com/blog/index.php/P6/>
    Dated 2/15/05

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    PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS
    http://pfa.topcities.com/execuative_orders.html
    [...]
    FEMA has constructed up to 80 large detention centers all over this country as a part of a 1989 presidential directive and as a part of the 1991 department of defense budget, and later budgets. They are complete and each is capable of holding 45,000+ individuals. This amounts to over 3.5 million individuals! Who are they for? --[yes, and this article was written BEFORE the big Halliburton deal earlier this year to build even MORE. See next link below. /ag]-- These camps have been built for the "detention" (meaning imprisonment) of those who resist or violate the executive order state should it ever be implemented. What 20th century governments can you think of who have instituted similar programs? Three major ones come to mind Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union and China. When you couple this information with the reports of foreign troops training on U.S. soil by the tens of thousands over the last 4 years (figures range from 200,000 to 450,000) the potential implications are ominous.
    [...]

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    Are Concentration Camps Coming to U.S.?
    <http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2816>
    By John Newby
    January 26, 2006

    KBR Awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M. (HAL)
    (By Katherine Hunt)

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    <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/THE_PARADISE_REPORTER/message/3240>
    [...]
    The Halliburton [read DICK CHENEY's FRIENDS] subsidiary KBR (formerly Brown and Root) announced on Jan. 24 [2006] that it had been awarded a $385 million contingency contract by the Department of Homeland Security to build detention camps. Two weeks later, on Feb. 6, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced that the Fiscal Year 2007 federal budget would allocate over $400 million to add 6,700 additional detention beds (an increase of 32 percent over 2006). This $400 million allocation is more than a four-fold increase over the FY 2006 budget, which provided only $90 million for the same purpose. [Pacific News 2/21/06]
    [...]

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    Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
    <http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=6T008OZH&GroupID=AA006SGW>

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    Some interesting "camp" photos here: <http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/camps.htm> along with a list of the camps. There's one in Florida I never heard of, Camp KROME, a DOJ/Rex-84 facility.

    Another list of camps:
    <http://www.rense.com/general17/statebystate.htm>

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    And you MUST go read this article at rense.com... <http://www.rense.com/general58/fearthecomingtrain.htm> White boxcars with human shackles being built in the USA by independent contractors and paid for by the United Nations for transporting people. Follow the money trail... chilling... Gundersen, Kansas City Southern, Trinity Rail Group (a three-pyramid logo), Greenbrier... those are some names you will learn in this article...

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    And from: <http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/4447>

    [...] ... as I recall the first railroad cars were by Gunderson steel, the pictures
    have since been scrubbed from the net.. as I understand it Gunderson has
    offered a 1000 reward for any pictures of the cars, now why is that... the
    ones I saw about 2 years ago had UN logo's on them.. the "AIR" holes in the
    so called car carriers are suspect. I have loaded personal cars for
    container ships and what cha know there were no ventilation holes for them
    to breathe... [...]

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    And re: missing Katrina evacuees...
    <http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/4467>

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    For this next one I don't have a link... not sure why, that's not like me:

    Military Reorganization Continues After Hurricane Katrina
    By Samantha L. Quigley
    American Forces Press Service
    WASHINGTON, Feb. 2, 2006

    [...] "Under our new organization, you will have defense coordinating officers and their staffs located within the 10 (Federal Emergency Management Agency) regions," said Army Brig. Gen. Mark Graham, deputy commanding general of the 5th U. S. Army. He said having these officers permanently in place in each of FEMA's regions would allow for better preparation for future events. "We'll have firsthand knowledge of all the local residents at the time," he said.
    [...]

    I don't know about you, but that last sentence creeps me out.

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    From Jon Watkins' Government Propaganda website, June 2006:
    [...]
    The government is now recruiting pastors and training them to keep the sheep in line when the crap hits the fan. You can listen to a 1 hr. audio file that will give you info. I urge you to listen. It's a 30 meg file so dial up users, it will take awhile.

    Here is the article
    <http://www.government-propaganda.com/NWO-Forum/showthread.php?p=493#post493>

    Here is the Audio file
    <http://www.exposingsatanism.org/Audio-Video/pastor-training-martial-law.mp3>

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    ARLENE JOHNSON; Publisher: Why an American Left Her Country
    http://www.truedemocracy.net
    [...] I read on my favorite listserv after 9/11 occurred. At the time that I read that, I lived on a peninsula, and knew that there were over 600 concentration camps; now, there are over 800 of them, and I will tell about them all." [...]

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    Congressional letter dated March 24, 1997, written by North Carolina Representative W.G. 'Bill' Hefner; re: citizen prison camps: <http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/concentration.html>

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    FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS: Locations and Executive Orders
    <http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062>

    China's Gulags <http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=96038>

    US Has Been Preparing to Turn America Into a Military Dictatorship <http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/suppression.html>

    Then check out these links on the subject of citizen prison camps:

    http://www.momomedia.com/CLPEF/camps.html

    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/con_camps.htm

    http://www.fitug.de/debate/0208/msg00179.html

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    /abbagail

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