As to SERVICE - Here is my suggestion Gumioneer.
Have MARY do one of her line-through rewrites of the WT & Awake you are placing. It will both amuse and warn the householder and you'll be free of breaking your promise to yourself, or close enough
So now that you've Gumborged I hope you are having a good time seeing your family.
Your Feelings On Getting Reinstated For Family Considerations
by minimus 102 Replies latest jw friends
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UnConfused
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Gill
Gumby is a very brave man! I don't know how he does what he is doing but....
I personally told my parents I would rather drop dead where I stand than go back to the WTBTS.....I'll stand by that, and drop dead by that if necessary!!
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lighthouse19something
Actually, my family is THE reason my wife and I have not officially disassociated ourselves.
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UnConfused
Good point LightHouse - that's the reason I don't bother and like you most everyone else as well
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james_woods
I have been putting off making a reply here for a while. I did not want to sound insensitive - but at the same time I wanted to be really honest about the issue.
I think the very idea of doing this doggy sucks. First, it is dishonest. Second, it is almost sure to cause a lot of mental and emotional stress and harm - not something that will be helpful to yourself or your family. Third, it is giving aid, support, and comfort to the enemy - an enemy that really does not care anything about you or your family. Fourth, there is a real danger of getting brainwashed again and ending up a watchtower drone like before.
It is so wrong on so many levels that I can hardly believe any person in their right mind could even consider doing this.
My word to Gumby is just this: Please, get out now before more harm can come from your action. Life is not worth living as a lie.
Sorry to be so blunt, but that is my true word on the subject.
James
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UnConfused
James, if everyone could express their disagreement or opinion the way you just did, intelligently and civilly, there would be far less angst and petty fights. I appreciate the sincerity of your thoughts while understanding fully how someone would do as Gumby has done.
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oldflame
It is so wrong on so many levels that I can hardly believe any person in their right mind could even consider doing this.
James,
With all due respect what might be wrong for one person might be right for the other. I don't agree with the going back either and will never do that , but that is what is right for me. Gumby has a very deep love for his family and if he is willing to give in just a little to keep his family rather than go insane then respect it. I realize you were just being honest and I respect that but this is his choice maybe he will learn from it and maybe not, but it is still his way of working out the terrible issues that were ripping at his heart.
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JWdaughter
I might for my mom if I didn't have my current family to consider. And then ONLY if she were dying or something and would actually buy into it enough for it to be a comfort to her. . .but that would mean she really HAD gone over the bend, and the gesture would probably be wasted on her in any case.
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undercover
My initial reaction to the news that Gumby is going back was shock. Though I don't know him personally, I've always come to look forward to reading his posts, enlightening, informed and dammit, just plain funny.
As I am still processing this info...I have torn feelings.
I hope nothing but the best for Gumby. If he can find peace by reinstating and rejoining his family, I can only support his decision.
At the same time, I feel that it's a shame that someone has to be that dishonest with themselves that they have to resort to a charade just to have their grandkids play with them.
And it's the dishonesty of the ones who hold reinstatement out as a carrot on a stick to bribe people to come back to re-joining the JWs that pisses me off. I feel anger at someone, anyone who would force someone that they claim to love to have to acquiesce to the authority of a group that they want no part of anymore just to receive that love from them. It's just fucking low.
But, only Gumby knows what will make Gumby happy...and if this decision to go back is going to make him happy, I wish him Gumspeed.
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minimus
When you think about it, what's the big difference when someone remains a JW, doesn't get df'd but remains a Witness in name only----maybe because they don't want to be losing their family and someone who goes back WITH THE VIEW that it's only being done for family considerations??