What is marital rape?

by Lady Lee 49 Replies latest social family

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I had never heard of this term until I was divorced for many years. The term "marital rape" confused me as I am sure it confused others.

    But I knew what it was. I knew how it felt. I knew the betrayal of trust. I knew because I lived it. Learning there was a term for it helped me define my experience as a JW and as an elder's wife.

    The website "Hidden Hurt: Domestic Abuse Information" provides some excellent information.

    The following comes from their website. I have edited out some information that discusses stranger rape.


    Marital Rape

    Marital Rape is rape, regardless of the relationship between the rapist and the victim. It can be a live-in partner, or a former partner; someone you are married to or have been married to in the past.

    Rape is a very personal and intimate traumatic experience. Our experiences of and reactions to rape may differ widely, and although there are many similarities in the way that we feel about being the victim of rape, regardless of the relationship between us and the rapist. I am trying to describe and offer an understanding of some of the specific problems regarding marital rape (or rape by an intimate).

    Please note that in this page I refer to wives and husbands, however, it can be understood to refer to all rapes perpetrated by an intimate. Also, I am only looking at rape and sexual assault on women, since this is by far the most common situation, though rape and sexual abuse also occur too frequently in same-sex relationships.

    The main differences between stranger rape and marital rape

    Stranger rape is usually a one-off, someone you don't know, with whom you don't share any experiences or history. When the assault happens, there can be no doubt as to what is happening: that it is Rape (though even in such situations the victim will often wonder what she has done to precipitate the assault and will blame herself). In marital rape the circumstances are very different. It is - quite apart from a physical and sexual violation - a betrayal of trust. Here is a person whom you thought you knew intimately, with whom you share a history, a home and quite often children. Here is a person whom you have made love to on a frequent basis often over many years, with whom you have shared your most intimate secrets and fears, and whom you believe to love you, want the best for you, who would never intentionally hurt you. Marital rape is so destructive because it betrays the fundamental basis of the marital relationship, because it questions every understanding you have not only of your partner and the marriage, but of yourself. You end up feeling betrayed, humiliated and, above all, very confused.

    Also, while stranger rape is a sexual act of violence outside (as in: apart from) the victims normal relationships, marital rape has to be understood in the context of an abusive relationship, that is, in the context of emotional and possibly physical abuse.

    One of the differences between stranger and intimate rape is that stranger rape will nearly always involve a certain degree of physical violence (one notable exception to this is rape involving the date rape drug) while a lot of cases of marital rape will involve coercion and only enough force to control the victim, known as 'force-only' rapes (see below).

    Another problem victims of marital rape face is that such instances are rarely a one-off, but a repeated if not frequent occurance. This can be a huge issue to the victim, because she will feel as though she has somehow 'asked for it' by staying or putting herself in the situation where it can happen again. Also, once it has been tolerated on a number of occassions, she may question her right to then act upon it.

    Other reasons a woman may not fight back are so as not to disturb children sleeping nearby, thereby risking them witnessing the rape; shock or confusion at what is happening which paralyses her; and real concern for her abuser, which results in her not wanting to do anything which may harm or injure her rapist even to the detrement of herself.

    Research seems to indicate that in the context of an abusive relationship, the woman is most likely to be subjected to rape towards the end of the relationship, or after she has left. It would appear that rape is often used by an abuser when other control tactics, such as isolation or emotional abuse are no longer sufficient to maintain his power and hold over her, or to punish her for either leaving or trying to leave. Only too often, this works.

    The problem of defining marital rape as Rape

    Many women who are victims of marital rape have great difficulty in defining it as such. The traditional idea that it is impossible for a man to rape his wife and that somehow, in taking our marriage vows we have abdicated any say over our own body and sexuality, basically denied ourselves the right to say 'no', is still prevalent amongst wives as much as amongst their husbands. A wife being raped will often question her right to refuse intercourse with her husband, and while she may realise that legally it now constitutes rape, there are many reasons which may prevent her from perceiving it in such a light.

    We prefer to see it possibly as a communication problem (did I make it clear enough that I did not want intercourse tonight), we may see it as an act for which the man is not fully responsible due to his nature (men have a biological need to have sex and if there is a woman next to them in bed when they are in the mood they just cannot help it), we may see it as a misunderstanding (although I told him I didn't want to, maybe I gave him the wrong signals somehow), we may have religious issues which question our right to refuse intercourse (I have got to submit myself to him and accept his will above mine as my Lord and Master).

    Basically, as wives being raped by our husbands, we look for every reason, every excuse to deny it is Rape because we do not want to accept the alternative: it is Rape, he is hurting and humiliating us with intent, we can no longer trust him, turn to him in comfort, gain reassurance and protection from his company and our home is no longer safe.


    I knew that saying "No" was not an option. If he didnt' get what he wanted he was miserable to live with both to me and our children. I knew that religion told me I had a duty to provide the "marital due". I knew I would be held responsible if he went outside the marriage to satisfy his sexula needs.

    I also knew how I felt when he was done and got out of bed to go wash himself. I felt dirty, alone, uncared for and unloved. I felt like a legal prostitute, paying for my room and board with sex.

    As a victim of childhood sexual abuse what was happening in my marriage felt no different that what had happened as a child. Someone else's right to sex was more important than my well-being, my needs and my hurt.

    And I was confused. I had a religion and a husband telling me that as a wife I had a responsibility. As a wife I was to be in submission to my husband. My childhood abuse told me that men had a need that had to be "taken care of" by me because I had "caused" it.

    Nowhere was I getting the message that I had a right to say no. Nowhere was I getting the message that I had a right to be treated with respect and real love. Nowhere was I getting the message that my feelings and needs were important.

    Rare is rape. It doesn't matter that you live in the same house. It doesn't matter that you made vows to each other. It doesn't even matter if you live in different places. (After our separation my husbnad wanted to come over for conjugal visits)

    Marital rape hurts.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    If I recall correctly it didn't become illegal in Britain until the mid-eighties. There was a big debate about it at the time, and I hadn't heard of it before then, either.

    The flip side of the coin is the expectation of wives in repressive cults that their husbands will go elsewhere if they withhold their "due", resulting in freedom to them. After I DAed I couldn't but wonder if this was a factor in my own wife's attitudes, though her increasing alienation of affection seemed to be a larger factor. For the last few months we didn't even share the same bed, though I know of some cases where the same treatment has gone on for years.

    Whatever the circumstances, marital rape is a deplorable reality for many women.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee
    The flip side of the coin is the expectation of wives in repressive cults that their husbands will go elsewhere if they withhold their "due", resulting in freedom to them.

    Now that's something I had never considered.

    That old bloodguilt thing stopped me dead in my tracks for that. I felt like such a failure, like damaged goos from the earlier abusae. I quite qillingly took all the blame on my shoulders to the point of giving him grounds for his spiritual divorce so I would never have to feel guilty if he did go outside the marriage.

    nonetheless it is interesting to think some women may have deliberatly withheld the "due" on purpose

    After I DAed I couldn't but wonder if this was a factor in my own wife's attitudes, though her increasing alienation of affection seemed to be a larger factor. For the last few months we didn't even share the same bed, though I know of some cases where the same treatment has gone on for years.

    Interesting. If she was deliberatly trying to force you to "sin" so she could be free . . . that's is also a sin as far as I can see.

    I had stopped sleeping in the marital bed. I would stay up late to read and fall asleep on the sofa. I used his snoring as an excuse. Having a cold and not wanting to bother him or pass it on to him was anoither excuse I used.

    Mind you my marriage was an arranged one so there never was a time when I loved him. I'm not even sure if there was a time when I could say I liked him. I knew two weeks after the marriage that it was a huge mistake. And it only went downhill from there.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    The following is my post on another thread

    I was on a 2-3 year cycle of depression and repression for years. A huge part of that twas the abuse in my early childhood (pre JW) But being a witness did nothing to help and I see ways it not only stopped me from healing but made them worse. The controlling environment of the WTS an a controlling husband/elder who was mentally, emotionally and sexually abusive drove me to the very brink of suicide.

    About a year before I actually left I got elder-approved permission to see a therapist about my childhood abuse. The one rule was not to tell them I was a witness.

    The counseling went well but it wasn't long before I was realized I was living the same nightmare in my adult life. My counselor lent me a book - a biography by a sexual abuse survivor. I related so well to the trauma, the feelings, the effects of what she went through.

    At one point she described how she felt listening to her father come in the door at night. How the atmosphere thickened and fear would overwhelm her. I remember those feelings.

    What shocked me was to realize I was still living that nightmare. But now, instead of listening for my father I had the sick feeling of listening to my husband's key in the door.

    I sat on my bed for 3 days sick with the memories of the past and the reality of the present. It seemed like there was no way out and feeling trapped is one of the worst feelings in the world.

    My thoughts of suicide increased. I did think of other options.

    I could just leave but I knew I was too sick mentally to care for my daughters alone.

    I still was a believer so knew I had an obligation to provide the "due" to my husband. We talked about that and he actually did move out to his own apartment for a short time but then wanted to make conjugal visits.

    The WTS tells women that if they are not providing the "due" then it is the woman who is responsible if he has sex with someone else. I would carry the bloodguilt of his wandering outside the bonds of marriage.

    The only way for me to avoid that bloodguilt was to either die or commit adultery myself so he could be free.

    Yeah I realize how stupid that all is but I fell for it hook line and sinker. Interesting how I never considered he would be bloodguilty for my actions

    So die or do it myself. And then I realized that I didn't want to be dead. There was an important but subtle difference between wanting to die and being dead. The wanting to die was more a wanting-it-all-to-stop, the pain, the anger, the abuse, the confusion, the pressures, I wanted it all gone.

    So leaving became an option but I never wanted him knocking on my door saying we were still spiritually wed and I had an obligation to fulfill.

    So instead of suicide I went the other way.

    And damn it all if he didn't say he would forgive me if I decided to say.

    No way. Getting my spiritual grounds for the end of the marriage was traumatic. I sure wasn't going to let it be for nothing.

    So I'm still here. Stronger and better than before and that is a place in my head that I never want to go again.


    second post

    As far back as the 50's the WTS was talking about the "due" and how it was a responsiblity. There are several points that contribute to the above

    1. The required "due"
      • [Paul said] "Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is well for a man not to have intercourse with a woman; yet, because of prevalence of fornication, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife her due; but let the wife also do likewise to her husband. The wife does not exercise authority over her own body, but her husband does; likewise, also, the husband does not exercise authority over his own body, but his wife does. Do not be depriving each other of it, except by mutual consent for an appointed time, that you may devote time to prayer and may come together again, that Satan may not keep tempting you for your lack of self-regulation. However, I say this by way of concession, not in the way of an order."—1 Cor. 7:1-7, NW.

    This scripture is used to show a duty to perform on request. A truly loving husband would not use this to force sex-on-demand. An abusive one, however, thinks this gives him power to exert his God-given right.

    In my case even a doctor's orders to abstain from sexual relations due to a high risk pregnancy and the high possiblity of the baby being born too soon. His right to the "due" came before the safety of his unborn child.

    2. A second part of this includes the acceptable reasons for terminating a marriage.

    The Jewish Pharisees once tested [Jesus] him with this question: "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every kind of grounds?" .

    13 "In reply he said: ‘Did you not read that he who created them at the beginning made them male and female and said: "For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh"? So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.’ They said to him: ‘Why, then, did Moses prescribe giving a certificate of dismissal and divorcing her?’ He said to them: ‘Moses, out of regard for your hardheartedness, made the concession to you of divorcing your wives, but such has not been the case from the beginning. I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except on the grounds of fornication and marries another commits adultery.’" (Matt. 19:3-9, NW) "When again in the house the disciples began to question him concerning this. And he said to them: ‘Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her, and if ever a woman, after divorcing her husband, marries another, she commits adultery.’" (Mark 10:10-12, NW) "Everyone that divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he that marries a woman divorced from a husband commits adultery."—Luke 16:18, NW.

    So there are two acceptable reasons for divorce: death and adultery. Getting a legal divorce would not negate the spiritual marriage. if one or the other did get the legal divorce, neither would be free to remarry and maintain their standing in front of Jehovah aka the WTS.

    Now, in my case, my elder husband had a job where in the summer he often was confronted with almost naked women who were sunbathing in their backyards. On those days he came home needing (in his words) sex. He was too weak to resist and the only way he would not sin and break his marriage vows was if he got sex that night. (doesn't that make a wife feel all lovey-dovey?) Knowing how he was I knew that if we were to divorce he would not be able to control those urges. And eventually he would commit adultery. Which brings me to my next point.

    3. Blood-guilt

    I can't find this right now but the principle was that if a witness A did something to cause witness B to be stumbled then witness A would be responsible for the loss of that person's standing and possible life.

    My husband used this argument regularly. If I refused him and he went out to commit adultery or if I legally divorced him and left him in a situation where he could not remarry scripturally and he had sex with someone then I would be bloodguilty for his sin. And like I said earlier - I believed him.

    So I was back with my 2 options. As a survivor of childhood abuse I already carried a heavy load of responsibility for the actions of others (I know better now) Death or adultery. I know somewhere in the back of my head there was the thought that if I commited adultery I might be able to eventually become approved again. If I was dead that was it. I even felt guilty for having that thought.

    It's been over 20 years and I'm OK now. In fact I haven't thought of suicide at all since I left in spite of how hurting I was from all the years of abuse.

    The WT teachings of headhsip and submission give some abusers carte blanche to treat their wives any way they want. It isn`t scriptural. But they do use it to get what they want and then have an organization support them

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    A comment from someone who prefers to remain anonymous (posted with permission)


    Lady Lee,

    I, too, experienced this. I remember the day it finally became clear to me that what had been happening to me all those years was rape. I was doing laundry and just sat down on the floor and cried! The coersion and threat that he'd "have to go elsewhere" and that I'd be responsible for his sin was a terrible threat. As a newly wed, he demanded it every night for the first couple of years. I just wanted to die! And there was no one to go to.


    You're right. There is no place to go. I'm a firm believer that victims know they won't get help if they tell someone. We know this with every fiber of our being. I know I did. And when I was at the breaking point I was proved right. They didn't listen.

    It sounds like you have your freedom now. Leaving abuse, any kind of abuse is the step to freedom and healing and becoming a survivor

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    LT I keep coming back to that possibility that some spouses may withhold deliberately in the hopes that the other might commit adultery. I'm sorry if that indeed was the case for you.

    May your future be brighter without her

  • J-ex-W
    J-ex-W

    ((((((((((((((((((( Lady Lee))))))))))))))))))))))

    I just started reading your thread/ story for the first time. I am so sorry, Hon. NOBODY should have to go through this. And yet, too many of us do.

    3. Blood-guilt
    I can't find this right now but the principle was that if a witness A did something to cause witness B to be stumbled then witness A would be responsible for the loss of that person's standing and possible life.

    You know...this doesn't hold true if witness A is male and witness B is female. When that's the case, responsibility is absolved for the (male) witnesses A--any 'bloodguilt' being nixed by their dicks.

  • Abandoned
    Abandoned

    Part of the joy of sex for me is the fact that the other person WANTS to get down and dirty. The look in their eyes. The touch, the coyness and then the direct, DO ME NOW stare. Oh yeah, I don't want it any other way than with a very willing partner....

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    I think the core of fear/horror/trauma of rape is the idea that one's body is being used by another without your permission or consent. I cannot think of anything else so personal and so intimate as one's own body. We all know what we like, or dislike, about our body but to have another (an outsider) step in and then force their own desires and acts on us goes, I think, to the core of the horror and fear we all have about the subject of rape. To go through an experience, without any control, any consent, any say-so whatsoever (irregardless of pain, etc.) is a deep seated fear of most people.

    Having said that, I'm very much intrigued by the idea of another kind of forced act surrounding sex: a passive/aggressive and angry act of withholding affection from your partner. I can't help but think this is a kind of a forcing of will upon another. If rape is an act of violence (if not anger) expressed in the act of sex, is the deliberate withdrawal of intimacy (something essential to a healthy and loving relationship) a form of violence expressed in a emotional, psychological way through the absence of sex?

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Thansk Chris you always have the right words

    I think the core of fear/horror/trauma of rape is the idea that one's body is being used by another without your permission or consent. I cannot think of anything else so personal and so intimate as one's own body. We all know what we like, or dislike, about our body but to have another (an outsider) step in and then force their own desires and acts on us goes, I think, to the core of the horror and fear we all have about the subject of rape. To go through an experience, without any control, any consent, any say-so whatsoever (irregardless of pain, etc.) is a deep seated fear of most people.

    For me, sex is such an emotionally loaded act. When its good, it's great but coersion removes any desire \. He never got that.

    Ah you are helping me find the words I need here. - a good thing.

    Sex/intercourse means I have to allow another person to enter my body. I can't think of anything so personal. so intimate. To have the right to say no and be heard is so important. That riught had been taken away in my childhood and here I was again in my own home, believing I had to rights what happened to my body.

    This next part will sound really crazy but I really wanted to know how far he would go. I would watch The Tonight Show while he was doing it. He didn't require participation, just availability. My lack of response never stopped him. So I took the experiment futher and read a book. How insane it that?

    It was impossible to feel loved or cared for when my feelings or even my participation were not concerns for him.

    This next part is a little embarassing (like the above wasn't embarassing) and require some degree of explanation but I think it is necessary

    Another side of this - the flip for me was my second husband (not a JW) would do everything he could to make sure I had an orgasm. Well that's fine to a point. But forcing a person to experience something when the body just isn't cooperating felt just as much an abuse as the other way.

    I don't want to be forced. Period.

    Sex can be fun and sexy and emotional and hot and sweaty and just plain wonderful.

    But when any kind of force, even when your partner thinks he is doing good, just doesn't work for me.

    Having said that, I'm very much intrigued by the idea of another kind of forced act surrounding sex: a passive/aggressive and angry act of withholding affection from your partner. I can't help but think this is a kind of a forcing of will upon another. If rape is an act of violence (if not anger) expressed in the act of sex, is the deliberate withdrawal of intimacy (something essential to a healthy and loving relationship) a form of violence expressed in a emotional, psychological way through the absence of sex?

    See there you go again. right words. I have to agree with you.

    We recognize that neglect is a form of abuse. We also recognize that the "silent treatment" is a form of emotional abuse. So it make s perfect sense to me that the withdrawal of attention, whether that is emotional, physical or sexual would be yet another form of abuse.

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