Personally I don't care for rap music, I do think the rap musicians collect much mula from the black and white community and are, in no way going to suffer from someone's opinion.
Kenny Drew On Modern Black American Popular Music.
by hillary_step 48 Replies latest social entertainment
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hillary_step
TopHat,
True, until the 'mula' dries up when the recording companies find another 'style' to polish.
However, my main questions have not been answered :
Has it served as a vehicle to downgrade areas of Black society that are already gasping for breath? Does it do a disservice to Black youth?
HS
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SirNose586
Hmmmm.... I don't recall Gil Scott-Heron having a lot of melody and harmony.
Check out "Secrets." Very cerebral album, IMO it's jazz-funk.
While I'm sure this suggestion is somewhat tongue in cheek, it's completely idiotic. There is plenty
of very intelligent 'Rap' (most informed musicians know it as Hip-Hop) music out there. I propose Mr. Drew
dig a little deeper than 50 Cent before he broadly proclaims that all 'rap sucks'.True. But if he's talking about stuff on the radio, I think there's a good point to be made.
While he is quick to blame the artists and record companies, he doesn't factor in the people that actually
buy this stuff, the 'black community'? Does he feel that they are not smart enough to make their own
decisions? Don't they share much of the blame for buying (and buying into) this type of music and lifestyle?It's mostly suburban white kids buying this stuff. It's just sort of a vicious cycle: Labels push bad music, people buy bad music because it panders to the lowest common denominator, which causes the labels to push more dumb "artists." The only way to break the cycle would be for all the dumb acts out there to start pushing smarter music. So, there's no end in sight for this nonsense..
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SirNose586
People follow the fashions that the recording companies pick up, manufacture into a product and then market. There are very few musical innovators, and millions of copyists, and this is a reality of modern entertainment and what passes as creativity in the musical world these dyas. The innovators, and of course even rap, hip-hop, whatever you call it had its early innovators, but as money and corporations enter the fray they rely on the tried and tested ignorance of the young to feed the coffers.
Very true! Hip hop was built, almost entirely, from funk. James Brown, P-Funk, the Isley Brothers...if those three influences weren't around, what we know as rap today would sound very different, if not cease to exist entirely.
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MsMcDucket
I didn't read the story. I don't care if the man feels that rap has caused the demise of the Black community. I've heard so many story about causes of the demise in the Black community. I keep wondering when have we ever been up? Oh well!
There's some rap music that I love and some that I never listen to. It's up to an individuals taste. Just like when rock and roll came in. It was supposedly degrading to listen to and was causing white youth to like debased things. I'm sure you all can remember those stories.
*sigh* Hell! There was a time that you couldn't do the twist on TV.
Let the dude keep playing his Jass (pun intended), ain't nobody trying to bring him down!
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TopHat
Has it served as a vehicle to downgrade areas of Black society that are already gasping for breath? Does it do a disservice to Black youth?
Rap music represents a way of life in the Black Society and so some believe it brings the needed attention to the problems of the black society. I don't know myself, if it does help or hinder.
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avishai
I'm of two minds on this one. A musician friend of mine once said rap is'nt music for the same reasons stated in the article. BUT he said, it is an art form. One with roots in talking blues, etc.
As for the social impact I agree, and here's a rap video also agreeing with those issues.
WARNING: Graphic imagery, as well as obscene language.
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MsMcDucket
Quincy Jones says that rap has roots from "African chanting". There's a lot of religions that use chanting too.
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MsMcDucket
Chant
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search- For the album, see Chant (album).
Chant is the rhythmic speaking or singing of words or sounds, often primarily on one or two pitches called reciting tones. Chants may range from a simple melody involving a limited set of notes to highly complex musical structures, often including a great deal of repetition of musical subphrases, such as Great Responsories and Offertories of Gregorian chant. Chant may be considered speech, music, or a heightened or stylized form of speech. In the later Middle Ages some religious chant evolved into song (forming one of the roots of later Western music). [citation needed]
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