Fencing Borders - Anyone Else Think This Is A Stupid Idea??

by Seeker4 37 Replies latest jw friends

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  Seeker4

  I've been listening to this from the Congress for some time now, and it's back in the news today. The idea is to build a literal fence along the US border, hundreds of miles long and costing millions of dollars, in order to keep out illegal aliens.

  Damn you Canadian outlaws! Oops! Sorry, I guess that's the MEXICAN border they're talking about... OK...

  Anyway, does anyone else feel that this seems like an incredibly idiotic "feel good" idea that won't really affect anything? Like people won't dig tunnels, or cut the fence, or create a "ladder" arch right over the top of the damn thing, or just blow big fucking holes in it, out in the middle of the desert where no one is really watching?

  And, why don't we need one on the Canadian border? Maybe because the people there have a standard of living equal to or better than the one here, so they don't feel the need to risk their lives to come here for menial jobs at low wages? MAYBE, just maybe, THAT might indicate a better approach to solving the problem with Mexico??

  Sorry if this offends anyone, but this fence idea just strikes me as really, really stupid and ineffectual.

  Anyone want to prove me wrong, or do you agree?

  S4
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  zack

  Republicans want to keep out Coloreds, whether they are Mexican, Honduran, Gautemalans, etc.... They don't mind other whites, though, like say, ehh, from Canada.

  It's about race, not immigration. Just read Pat Buchanan's books--- at least he wears his racism on his sleeve.
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  Anti-Christ

  I agree, but then again I am Canadian hey!
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  theinfamousone

  this is absolutely moronic... but the yanks have been talking about it for years now... why the hell would they want to keep the mexicans out??? the reason i ask this is because the only americans without jobs are the morons who would rather sit at home and complain about how the mexicans are taking their jobs... but offer them the job the mexican is doing and they'll say, thats not good enough for me... its ridiculous... im a caucasian who has been told several times to go back home because i take their jobs... idiotic... i think that the real solution here is to eliminate welfare that goes to the lazy... forget the border fence...

  ps. only morons like bush and his senate would pass something so ridiculous... even his father wasn't up for this one

  the infamous one
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  justsomedude

  Republicans want to keep out Coloreds, whether they are Mexican, Honduran, Gautemalans, etc.... They don't mind other whites, though, like say, ehh, from Canada.

  Well that doesnt quite capture it. Living in a border state I can tell you that this is a real problem, though I doubt a huge fuckin fence is going to do anything to help the situation.

  Here are a few issues that I personally have to deal with because of our lack of border control

  My state has a insane car theft rate. A good portion of those cars find their way down to Mexico and because of this, I get to pay one the highest auto insurance rates in the country.

  These same harmless illegals dont bother to get insurance on whatever they do drive which does nothing to solve the problem mentioned above.

  If you need to go to the ER, you had better be prepared to wait for 8 hours or so as the illegals use this as their primary care doctor.

  Schools are being forced to conduct classes in spanish and english to accomodate the children of the illegals, increasing the cost to the tax payer.... and then dont get me started on taxes...

  I'm not a racist, I'm simply anti-burden.
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  theinfamousone

  hate to tell you this bro, you sound pretty racist to me... but maybe im wrong and i do understand your viewpoint here... but the problem here is that your comments are SWEEPING generalisations... i mean not every mexican, not even most mexican, not even a substancial part of mexicans are coming and stealing cars... its one in a thousand, if not smaller odds... and the other issue here is that, most of the car stolen are probably by your own people...

  next thing is, its not the mexicans fault that the ER is full, its your governments... mine are full here too, and i do not blame immigrants, i blame the lack of funding from the government....

  and take it from someone who is QUADRILINGUAL, learning another language may cost more in your tax dollars, but your childs intelligence levels will sky rocket just because he/she learned another language....

  im not racist either, im just sensible

  the infamous one
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  justsomedude

  hate to tell you this bro, you sound pretty racist to me... but maybe im wrong and i do understand your viewpoint here... but the problem here is that your comments are SWEEPING generalisations... i mean not every mexican, not even most mexican, not even a substancial part of mexicans are coming and stealing cars... its one in a thousand, if not smaller odds... and the other issue here is that, most of the car stolen are probably by your own people...

  Let me clarify.. Im not saying that everyone that comes up from mexico steals cars... What I am saying is that we have on of the hightest rates (we were #1 in 2001) of auto theft in the country and a number of those vehicles end up in mexico.

  I'm trying to locate stats for that right now, but see the first paragraph in this article

  http://phoenix.about.com/od/cartheft/a/autotheft.htm

  next thing is, its not the mexicans fault that the ER is full, its your governments... mine are full here too, and i do not blame immigrants, i blame the lack of funding from the government....

  The thing is, we dont have that sort of health care system here, its not run by the goverment. The system is not intended to run in the fashion that its being used in and this is causing problems.

  and take it from someone who is QUADRILINGUAL, learning another language may cost more in your tax dollars, but your childs intelligence levels will sky rocket just because he/she learned another language....

  I never claimed that learning a second language was a bad thing.. As a matter of fact I am completely in favor of it.. The part that you are missing is that our educational system as it sits right now is geared to have english as the primary language.
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  justsomedude

  im not racist either, im just sensible

  Hate to tell you this bro, but you dont sound very sensible... but maybe Im wrong.

  Right now we are trying to put a square peg into a round hole and pretend that there's nothing wrong with that. People can carry on about race and whatever else they want, but the reality of the situation is that this isn't good for our already weak economy and wont get any better. Our politicians are ignoring the will of the people and this is a hot issue here.

  If you dont live here, I don't expect you to understand, but don't assume that someone is a biggot just because they dont like being walked all over.
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  What-A-Coincidence

  Take over Mexico and rebuild it..problem solved. Next?
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  Hortensia

  the Berlin wall was pretty successful - of course East Germany was a totalitarian state - maybe not what we want for our nation. I used to live in San Diego where they have a fence all the way out into the ocean. Used to go to the beach and watch people wade out around the end of the fence and walk up on the U.S. end of the beach. Unless they are going to patrol the entire fence all the time, it ain't going to work. And oh yeah, what about those tunnels they have discovered under the border?