The Underbelly is exposed...........

by AK - Jeff 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    What will you do?

    What proactive things have you done [or intend to do] to warn others about the cult you have escaped? The unfortunate fact of life is that we tend to look only at our own personal benefits from leaving the cult if not careful. Or we give up after a failed attempt. Obviously this is a big challenge - Jw's are hard to reach [ironically]. And the battle to reach them is tiring. And there is life to live of our own also. Yet there are millions of people just like you, still trapped - and millions of others who might get trapped someday.

    Please share your approach to warning others of the danger. How have you fared? Have you given up and just elected to live life with little concern for those who were, perhaps not long ago, your 'brothers and sisters'?

    This is not a 'guilt' thread. Just hoping to get old ideas and new ones 'out there' for those who feel compelled or are able to provide seeds to aid in other's escape. What has worked? What hasn't? What might you try - and the reasons?

    Jeff

  • Pubsinger
    Pubsinger

    Funnily enough I've been invited to give my testimony of leaving the JWs at a housegroup of a neighbouring church (what? . . .Christendoms churches have housegroups)

    But I said I'd rather talk about things they could say to the JW on their doorstep.

    They thought that wasa great idea

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    We have a website, mainly run by Trev, which gets visited by jws. We know this as some of them send us emails complaining about the anti-jw content - but at least they are reading.

    All our neighbours are very well clued up on the watchtower, so I doubt they ever get anywhere round here. Most of the local jws shun us, so we don't really get an opportunity to talk to them.

  • VanillaMocha73
    VanillaMocha73

    I try to follow the example of those who helped me out. If I am so fortunate to obtain the email of a JW, I will try to draw them out with questions and help them to a clear understanding. They have not come to my door, but if they do, we will most certainly be cordial and try to reason with them. I would like to write a letter to all the members of my former congregation and explain a few things.

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    you might want to read this post I made yesterday if you haven't caught it already...

    Conversation with an Elder

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Jeff:

    Truthfully, one of the most difficult tasks to come
    to terms with is trying to reach someone about the
    cult they are involved in.

    Jeff, I have explained what my outcome was over the
    telephone regarding my friend Xavier, though successful,
    it was a tremendous two year challenge.

    I know this sounds selfish, however, I am not in-
    clined to go that route anymore.

    Your friend,

    Richard

  • theinfamousone
    theinfamousone

    you can only help the willing.. the problem there is that most are not willing... most are so brainwashed, so controlled by the bs athat they feel they truly have found the right... what i do is i tell everyone what has happened to me... what this religion has caused as far as damage and pain, and i hope they learn... i talk... theres nothing better than that!! and i am currently trying to write a book, though the work is slow, one day it may help!

    the infamous one

  • The wanderer
    The wanderer

    Dear Infamous One:

    Good Point!

    "you can only help the willing.. the problem there is that most are not willing..."-Infamous One

    When you are trying to point out to a cult
    member that their belief system is wrong
    the topic of discussion quickly becomes
    emotional.

    In the beginning, more than likely you
    will be viewed as an enemy and not as
    a friend.

    All the years, I knew my friend Xavier
    we never once used a profanity.

    When I exposed the organization the
    "red meat" flew.

    Been there done that.

    Respectfully,

    The Wanderer

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    My personal approach is to 'lay it on the line' so to speak. It lead to having to DA myself actually, which is a good thing for me in many ways now.

    I have done many things - most of which prob make me the 'fire-breathing apostate' in the eyes of the local cultists. But one never knows what will reach some of them - and that is all I can hope for.

    You have to 'know' the person you are trying to reach - not all Jw's are identical in this matter. Today, I sent this letter to a longtime friend who now considers me an 'enemy of the state' for my letter posted in the local paper about Jw sexual abuse;

    Dale -

    Following my ‘shunning’ by you last week, an interesting curiosity arises in my mind and heart.

    You clearly view my revelation of ‘deep secret’ sins of the Watchtower Society as proof that you have the ‘Truth’, and are being persecuted for it. Yet it is entirely factual and supported by thousands of news-reports around the world. [See my letter to the editor; May 22, 2007 News-Sun]

    The great irony is that you view your organization’s attack on the Catholic Church for similar sins, as justified, and a clear indication that God does not bless that religion. [See virtually thousands of Anti-Catholic articles in the Watchtower publications over the past 100 years].

    Curious indeed! I doubt Jesus would have persisted in covering over the sins of his early church - while instructing his followers to be mean and hateful to those who knew of those sins. If sexual abuse within one religion condemns it - why not in another? I don’t see how it can be otherwise! If you do, please explain it to me. I welcome that.

    I feel no need to shun you for your attachment to the organization that has perpetuated such sins, yet you feel a need to shun me for revealing the matter. Whose sin is greater? All I can say is ‘Unbelievable Hypocrisy’. Sadly, you can’t even see it. [Matthew 15:12-20]

    My love remains unconditional. Truth is wherever it is to be found - pretty or not. That is what I stand for - ‘Truth’. Sorry if that offends you. Did you not know me to be a man of character - that I would have to stand for what is right in the eyes of God?

    I always have stood for truth. I always will. But you toss out nearly 50 years of friendship because I dare to do what is right? Odd indeed. I suppose by that measure, you would have more respect to those who cover over the sins of others? Sorry, I cannot do that. I will continue to greet you in public, though I am deeply ashamed of your religion’s actions, and indeed your willing hatefulness toward me - a man that you know has integrity to truth and righteousness, which is why I left the faith of Jehovah’s Witnesses to follow the Lord of the Bible, Jesus, to begin with.

    I say as did Stephen “Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do.”

    Your friend -

    This will not work with everyone of course. In fact, it may not work in this case [in terms of convincing Dale of anything]. My intention here is to bring to his mind my long history of faithfulness to what I believed was correct and true. If that sticks, later on he might deal with the dissonance he surely must feel after a lifetime of Jwism.

    Jeff

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Danny says, "A tiger can take down an elephant, if it bites it once a day." WARNING TO THE WATCHTOWER RELIGIOUS RACKET To the best of my knowledge there is only ONE unique Danny Daniel Haszard in cyberspace the Haszard clan is all over the world we go back to medieval old English. The point is any search pages shown here and there are TENS OF THOUSANDS are going to be 98% anti-Watchtower cult pages,as this is my (Danny Haszard) primary mission. These are links made by me in a 5 1/2 year period all pages created individually and loaded up on the net by hand. http://www.google.com/search?q=Danny+Haszard&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLJ GOOGLE SHOWS 31,000 PAGES Theses results are INCOMPLETE and UNDERRATED as the indexing is slow keeping up with me I make dozens more everyday and NETWORK with other apostates ( this is the real scarypart for you Watchtower) I actually promote other colleague links like JWD, Freeminds and Silentlambs, ahead of my own home page dannyhaszard.com Theses pages are on countless different servers and are cached forever as long as the Internet exist as long as civilization continues. We have IMMORTALITY yes the Watchtower lied when they promised me everlasting life,but I will get it anyway! Watchtower I will haunt you from beyond the grave! Good readCan the Truth Survive the Internet?

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