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Locutus of Borg

I belong to Toastmasters International. My employer sponsors us in it because it does make for excellent presentaion skills.

My very first speech was entitled "When I was 7 Years Old I was Placed in A Box, I spent 37 Years in That Box, I have Recently Gotten Out". It was about my experience growing up in and getting away from the cult. It was supposed to go 7 to 8 minutes but I went over 16, with no protests. The district President was there ands he hounded me for months to take this speech on the Toastmasters Competition circuit, but I declined because at that tme, 2 years ago, it was too raw and emotional for me to do so. I am seriously considering taking it on the road with Toastmasters.

The District Pres said it was a shoe-in for the regional championship (NY including Rochester, Syracuse, Albany) . .

I used an essay I did at SUNY IT back in '99 for a scholarship for disadvantaged students (didn't win but got an honorable mention, I guess being caucasion, 49 and a full time student, no job, and out of options wasn't what they were looking for :0\ )

Peace and out \/

Mary

What proactive things have you done [or intend to do] to warn others about the cult you have escaped?

I must be getting tired, because when I first read this, I thought it said "What provacative things have you done..." LOL!

Actually, the Society has done a wonderful job on their own exposing themselves as a cult or high control group. Before the pedophile scandal that was exposed a few years ago, most people thought of Jehovah's Witnesses as more or less, a bunch of harmless nutjobs. But between the bad press they got with that, coupled with their desire to see the innocent sextuplets out in BC die rather than accept a blood transfusion, well, everyone I know no longer sees the Witnesses as harmless nutjobs. The daughter of my friend who's doing her paper on the Witnesses sent me the following email after I sent her all the links exposing the Borg for what it really is:

"...Wow, thank you so much I can't believe how much great stuff you sent me.
It's really eye-opening to see the difference between what they say and how
it really is. Anyways you have been so much help and I really appreciate it,
you really went above and beyond...."

I've had some really good conversations with some of the people at the church I attend too. They're shocked beyond belief that any religion would tell someone they can't talk to a family member simply because they either don't agree with a doctrine or celebrate a birthday. I know one of them said something to the Witnesses when they called on him a couple of weeks ago about false date setting. I guess the Witness stammered and tried to minimize what the Organization really said. I guess he left in a hurry. LOL!

rekless

It has been quite a while since I have been here.

To answer the question. I have written a book called

"The Dream Pushers--captives in a system of deception."

It deals with 31years,1969 - 2000 the UN debacle, higher education, the fall of Jerusalem, 1975 false prophecy, oral sex,the death of a son and wife due to the blood issue.

It is going through the final draft and then I hope to find an agent and publisher.

I do make it a point to tell everybody I meet that I was a JW,an elder,and I disassociated myself. It is nice to see the response and disbelief as I relate my story. I gurantee you that they don't want to listen to the witnesses around here.

rekless,

from Clearlake,Ca. and McComb, Ms.

free2beme

Just give honest answers to people that ask and not try to look bitter. JW's have a positive appearance to some people and your horror stories of them doing this and that, often get responses like, "The ones I know are really nice," and make you feel slightly foolish. Point out flaws in the religion, not the people, works better.

HappyDad

Jeff,

I'm not as good with words as the majority on this board, but once I start talking and have the ammunition I need (everything I need and use is found on the web........and I always give the credit to the originator) look out. I'm then on a roll!

Ask me to explain something on this board (getting thoughts from my brain through my fingers onto/into a written response) and I am like a babbling idiot. My thoughts get lost somewhere in the path from the brain to the keyboard. Ask me to explain something to an audience and I can talk like nobody's business.

That is what I did on more than one occasion. The last time was last Thursday, May 24th at St. Stephen's Episcopal Church. I was asked by an old friend of mine if I could come give my testimony on being a JW and leaving the JW's and talk about some of the false doctrine they spew.

It was my pleasure.

One of the women there turned out to be the neice of a couple I have known for over 30 years. We had a great conversation after my "talk" and the next day.........I got an email from her Aunt. The family is torn apart because my old JW friends part of the family refuse to acknowledge that anyone else exists........mainly because the Aunt who sent me the email DA's herself 2 years ago and is now a Christian. She actually took her other sister in to live with her after a nasty divorce but this sister would not even think of getting a job to support herself. Guess what? This lazy sister is a very ACTIVE JW. Once she heard about the letter her sister sent, she would not speak to her. (even though this fleshly sister provided for her). The elders of my old KH told her to leave and live somewhere else..

Bottom line............Lazy sister is living with an OLDER JW couple and is still not working. Her brother and sister in law (the one's I have known for over 30 years ..............refuse to help the deadbeat JW relative.

Man.....what a script!

Since I am successfully faded for about 5 years now........it seems that my very active stance of speaking out publicly on several occasions in churches will now make me a FAMOUS apostate in the SE Pittsburgh, PA region...and someone to be avoided like the plague. Am I upset about this..........................YES I AM !!!! Not because of being "APOSTATE"..............but I don't feel I have the confidence of public speaking out.

Reason being............I would really like some media publicity to make it more astounding!! I have been called by the president of the local Christian TV station to see if I could come over to talk about my experience. But...........I feel like Moses..........not able to articulate in the proper manor. Is it all negative feelings in my head? Could be......because I used to give talks at the Circuit Assy. and even spoke at Three Rivers Stadium in Pgh. I just don't feel like I would be anyone to be listened too on the TV. In a setting like a church or whatever............I do good.

A writer might be able to creat a script of my thoughts but to me............it wouldn't sound like it was from me.

But anyhow..............anytime I'm asked to speak to a group about the JW cult.........I'm more than happy to do it.....and they all seem more informed and enlightened after I'm done.

HappyDad

Edited to say...............Hey Drew Sagan................drop me a PM or a phone call........How you doing?

NotaNess

I did a talk at my church in our men's group on the JWs. It was VERY interesting. Lasted 2 weeks, and got pretty heated because we had a non-disfellowshipped former elder in the group, and he still held to some of the JW doctrine. We had to end the topic because it was rolling into something different, although we weren't bashing or attacking him, just posing thoughts and questions, that got into heavy debates. I thought it went well. The guys were educated on some JW doctrine and were given insight to try and help witness to witnesses if approached.

Someone mentioned starting a brochure. I have been thinking that a good idea would be to make a small colored insert that exposes the WTS, and insert one into each Watchtower/Awake that you see stacked in those laundry mats, libraries, stores, etc.

Vernon Williams

We started our site:

http://jwmidwest.com/index.asp

I talk to everyone about the JWs.

Here is a wierd thing to me: I have talked to several pastors about comming to thier churches to discuss the JWs. No one is interested. The reason I think is this: The JWs do not have enough "effect" on thier flocks to cause a concern. The Witnessess are not even a blip on the radar of the average person.

A few thoughts,

V

Mrs Smith

In South Africa there is no help for those trying to get out ot the org. Agent Smith and I are trying to get something off the ground. We want to start with our local churches, giving talks on the basic JW beliefs etc. We will be starting soon at our home group. We are hoping to reach many people who have been hurt by their JW family. We also want to get Christians to pray for the JW in the community. Anyone want to have the next Apostafest in Sunny SA?

DannyHaszard

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