The Underbelly is exposed...........

by AK - Jeff 38 Replies latest jw friends

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  sass_my_frass

  Have you given up and just elected to live life with little concern for those who were, perhaps not long ago, your 'brothers and sisters'?

  Yes: mostly because it is my opinion that the process of exiting WBTS begins, is progressed, and ends entirely with the person exiting. Others can only support. Anybody who tries to get the process started actually prevents it, and speeding it up sends it backwards. I know this is bad news for people who have beloved ones trapped by it, but, like I said, just my opinion.

  I also think that my primary responsibility is to myself and my marriage. I don't have the interest or energy to play the stressful, complex, depressing game of caring for these people who treat me as if I am dead.
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  DannyHaszard

  Yes: mostly because it is my opinion that the process of exiting WBTS begins, is progressed, and ends entirely with the person exiting. Others can only support. Anybody who tries to get the process started actually prevents it, and speeding it up sends it backwards. I know this is bad news for people who have beloved ones trapped by it, but, like I said, just my opinion.

  I also think that my primary responsibility is to myself and my marriage. I don't have the interest or energy to play the stressful, complex, depressing game of caring for these people who treat me as if I am dead.

  Good point mate, there are 'good cop' links out their to ease exit transition for those who are seeking.

  http://www.watchtowernews.org/howto/index.htm

  HOW TO TALK TO WITNESSES
  SLIDE SHOW In my case bad cop Danny Haszard my mission objective is to go after the Watchtower corporation that ripped off my family.Same as if they were defaulted Enron corporation except that the Watchtower racket is still up and has assets that can be demanded. I demand ALL our money back!
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  smellsgood

  I'm always thinking of things to do....but the logistics sort of run a muck.
  
  I was thinking it would be fantastic for former witnesses to put their door to door experience to REALLY good use and do an anti-witness from door to door. Imagine, householders not being asked "are you worried about world conditions" but "how many times have JW's annoyed you over the years?" and then whatevah. I dunno, I make my own freeminds.org shirt around. I get asked about it, and talk about witnesses, though the common person does not usually share my type of interest/passion for it. :)
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  wednesday

  I come in frequent contact with the medical community. I am always happy to share the truth about jws , and give them ammunition, so to speak.
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  Guest with Questions

  I just got home from work a while ago. While resting, the thought came to me about putting it on say a 4x5 leaflet. One side could state the reason for the leaflet; to ask anyone starting a Bible Study to at least look into it before jumping in. If they still want to join this group at least they have been informed. We could also have a list of Web Sites about the UN, Sexual Abuse settlements, SixScreens, etc, including JWD. This way we could see if it has any effect and if anyone has questions they could come here. I think the less info on the card, but really important info, could be the way to go. The info is already there on the Web Sites.

  For me the Mediator is a really big thing. I still haven’t received any real answers from any witness to what they personally believe. Maybe they’re confused about it.

  I have considered, to cover costs and have the manpower to distribute the leaflets, asking if any churches would back up the project if I decided to cover a whole city or region.

  I don’t know what anyone else thinks of it. A thousand minds are better than one. If, to those who are interested, we can come to some agreement to what is really important; what the reasons where why you got out, we may end up with some success in reaching even a few. It wouldn’t take much time to put together; a short note and a list of Web Sites. Maybe it could be printed off from this site so we all absorb the costs.
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  Guest with Questions

  hope this works: adjusted from old brochure I made up a few yrs ago. It's still rough, so any changes you think will make it better I welcome.
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  OnTheWayOut

  I personally believe that most rock-solid Dubs are going to have to decide when they are ready
  to expose "the truth." I am trying two different tactics with two different family members.

  I have made positive steps in my fade from the congregation and make them clear to my wife.
  I have several mini-interventions with her, but she shuts down if the anti-JW stuff gets too clear.
  So the mini- is the key for her. She misses some meetings and is late for several of them, now
  that I am not pushing to be there for my responsibilities (read my bio if you want to know).

  For my mother, I have let her know that I am no longer an elder, but I wait for her to ask questions.
  I have my non-JW sister try to make her use her own independent thought. That isn't going well.
  The next step is more along the lines of the method with the wife. I will make my encounters into
  mini-interventions.

  I have had honest conversations with a good friend who is JW. He isn't ready. The rest of my
  acquaintances in WTS are pretty much on their own.

  I started working on a book. I don't want to discuss the details, but it will have to be authored by
  anonymous. The goal is not to make money (it wouldn't hurt, but probably won't happen) but to
  help faders, and to get a better idea about how to write books.
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  Crafty Lady

  It seems that we're fighting the good fight on two fronts. One trying to get people already in--out. Then to keep anyone else from joining. I haven't had any contact with witnesses for a long time and my family was either out or never been in. So, I work on the second one. When I hear people mention the witlesses, I almost always put my 2 cents in about what an awful religion it is. Sometimes it leads to pretty good discussions. I figure every little bit helps.

  Crafty
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  AK - Jeff

  GwQ - I love the brochure idea. Nice and eye catching.

  Jeff