Totally true minimus. I thought long and hard before I decided to talk with the elder that I did. It seems to have been a wise decision because of what followed.
Don't know if you caught my other post on the original thread about my discussion with that elder but to sum it all up I feel that the conversation I had with him has nothing to do with what we discussed. It seems to be all revolving around the YMCA issue because that is what they have proof against us for. The elder I talked with seems not to have given them much of what I said that could have been used against me.
If You're Thinking About Getting Out, Be Careful Who You Confide Doubts To
by minimus 66 Replies latest jw friends
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drew sagan
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flipper
Minimus, great subject. Thanks for starting this. If more people were careful about who they confided in, then there would be more people able to fade quietly from this without being harassed and hounded , and stalked always having to look over their shoulder. I tried for four years. They still found a reason to chase me even after quietly fading that long. Mr. Flipper
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bigdreaux
yeah, i confided in my sister. we are really close, and i thought we had a good conversation, until, she told my parents everything i said and they called me to ask me if i was an apostate. i told them no, which, isn't a lie. if you go by the dictionary term of apostate, i am not one. my faith in god hasn't changed.
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eclipse
It is true...even if the person you told is trustworthy,
they might tell someone that they believe is trustworthy with what you told them,
who actually is a lying, conniving snitch, and the proverbial shit hits the fan.
Good advice about profiles, they can look at my facebook if they want....
there is nothing there that is
apostateagainst the governing body/ society/ faithful&discreetslaveshitheads.pardon my french.
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PinTail
Oh for the love of Mike! If you know and feel in your heart of hearts that you have been duped and are in a cult, then why play head games, they only have enough power that you are willing to give them. No one is forcing you to blindly walk in that dear little carpeted room in the back library and set there surrounded by jokers with their brief cases opened up cross legged, waiting for you like your some Christmas ham. Come on all, get a life stand up for what you believe in, and don't be abused any more. It is not Jehovah who treats you this way, it is a sick twisted poor excuse for a religion who rules with an iron fist. Give your self permission to say NO MORE! I dare you to read this ... But first take off your rose colored glasses for a while. http://www.biblestudents.net/food4jws/wt_history/
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looking_glass
Pin - you must not have family still in the religion, otherwise you would not tell people to piss or get off the pot. People here are trying to figure out a way to continue to have a relationship w/ family members that are still JWs and that means having to walk a fine line between being able to be yourself and being quiet about your feelings for the religion. To minimize what people go thru is generally based on a very narrow view on a subject, which always reminds me of the black and white mentality that the WTBTS teaches.
Mini - I was fortunate in that I had jw friends who had faded already, so I was in good company already. But even then, there is one GF who faded but she still considers herself a JW and so we cannot have an open and honest convo.
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LtCmd.Lore
PinTail, have you ever read the story of RichieRich? Or Gumby?
Or 75% of all the people on this board... I can't stand up for myself yet because I still live with my parents. If I stood up for my beliefs when I fist became an atheist at age 16 where do you think I'd be now?
I WILL "get a life and stand up for what I believe in"... but not until I have some legs to stand ON.
Lore
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mkr32208
Respectfully I disagree, I think if you want out you should tell EVERYONE! (Makes it quick!)
I also think you should moon the elders when they drive by the house.
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changeling
Minimus: I couldn't agree with you more. A lifetime as a witness has taught me to watch my back.
Pintail: Don't be so judgemental. Everyone here would love to take a stand but the price is way to high for most of us.
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minimus
As was mentioned earlier, the person you're speaking to may be genuine and caring and understanding BUT that person may feel they have a moral obligation to get you some "help". They approach an elder and all hell breaks loose!