The Bible Says that Jesus is God - Definately

by Sirona 41 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Hi,

    I am not a bible believer. I have a question for those of you who are bible believers. If you believe that Jesus is not God, how do you justify the following:

    The Bible says that: The heavens are the work of God’s hands (Ps 102:25), the heavens are the work of Jesus’ hand (Heb 1:10); God laid the foundations of the earth (Isa 48:13), Jesus laid the foundations of the earth (Heb 1:10); God is our judge (Ps 50:6, Eccl 12:14, 1Chron 16:33), Jesus is our judge (2Tim 4:1, Rev 20:12); God is the temple of the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:22), Jesus (the Lamb) is the temple of the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:22); God is the alpha and omega (Rev 1:8), Jesus is the alpha and omega (Rev 22:13); God is the first and last (Isa 44:6, 48:12), Jesus is the first and last (Rev 22:13); God is the beginning and the end (Rev 21:6), Jesus is the beginning and the end (Rev 22:13); Only God can forgive sins (Lk 5:21), Jesus forgives sins (Lk 5:20); God is our hope (Ps 71:5), Jesus is our hope (1Tim 1:1); God is eternal (Deut 33:27), Jesus is eternal (Isa 9:6, Heb 1:10-11); God will come with all the holy ones (Zech 14:5), Jesus will come with all the holy ones (1Thess 3:13); Only God is our savior (Isa 43:11), Jesus is our savior (Tit 2:13, 2Pet 1:1); God is the creator of the universe (Isa 44:24, Jer 27:5), Jesus is the creator of the universe (Jn 1:3); To God, every knee will bow and every tongue confess (Isa 45:22-23), to Jesus, every knee will bow and every tongue confess (Phil 2:10-11); God is the same and his years will have no end (Ps 102:27), Jesus is the same and his years will have no end (Heb 1:12); God is immutable (Mal 3:6), Jesus is immutable (Heb 13:8); God is over all (Ps 97:9), Jesus is over all (Jn 3:31); the spirit of God dwells in us (Rom 8:9), the spirit of Jesus dwells in us (Gal 4:6); God is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (Isa 8:14), Jesus is a stone of offense and a stumbling block (1Pet 2:8); God was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Zech 11:12-13), Jesus was valued at 30 pieces of silver (Mt 26:14-16); God is our shepherd (Ps 23:1), Jesus is our shepherd (Jn 10:11, 1Pet 5:4, Heb 13:20); God is Mighty God (Isa 10:21), Jesus is Mighty God (Isa 9:6); God is Lord of Lords (Deut 10:17, Ps 136:3), Jesus is Lord of Lords (Rev 17:14); God is our only Rock (Isa 44:8, Ps 18:2, 94:22), Jesus is our rock (1 Cor 10:4); God is our owner (Isa 54:5), Jesus is our only owner (Jude 4); No one can snatch us out of God’s hand (Deut 32:39), no one can snatch us out of Jesus’ hand (Jn 10:28); God is the horn of salvation (2Sam 22:3), Jesus is the horn of salvation (Lk 1:68-9); God renders according to our works (Ps 62:12), Jesus renders according to our works (Mt 16:27, Rev 22:12); God loves and corrects (Prov 3:12), Jesus loves and corrects (Rev 3:19); God’s words will stand forever (Isa 40:8), Jesus’ words will stand forever (Mt 24:35); God is the eternal light (Isa 60:19), Jesus is the eternal light (Jn 8:12, Rev 21:23); God seeks to save the lost (Ezek 34:16), Jesus seeks to save the lost (Lk 19:10); Paul is a slave of God (Tit 1:1), Paul is a slave of Jesus (Rom 1:1) even though no man can slave for two masters (Mt 6:24); God raised Jesus from the dead (Gal 1:1), Jesus raised himself from the dead (Jn 2:19-21); God is our guide (Ps 48:14), Jesus is our guide (Lk 1:79); God is our deliverer (Ps 70:5, 2Sam 22:2), Jesus is our deliverer (Rom 11:26); God is called God (Isa 44:8), Jesus is called God (Isa 9:6, Jn 20:28); God is the King of Israel (Isa 44:6), Jesus is the King of Israel (Mt 27:42, Jn 1:49). Since the Bible does not contradict itself, how can all these things be true if Jesus is not God?
  • Mary
    Mary

    Easy: Jesus was a co-Creator so there's nothing wrong with attributing God's qualities to Him.

  • Honesty
    Honesty

    Jesus is God.

    It's hard to read the evidence and still deny it.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Mary: come on! Its hardly a "oh he's just like his dad" scenario

  • AlphaOmega
    AlphaOmega

    If you've seen me, you' ve seen my father...

    (modern paraphrase sort of)

    ANYWAY,

    Thank you for this. I had some of these comparisons, but now I have many more.

  • Mary
    Mary

    Sorry----I simply do not believe Jesus was God and I don't believe he ever told anyone that he was. My own opinion is that the writers of the NT deified Jesus after his execution, making him out to be something he wasn't. This was not an uncommon practice at that time: making mortals into gods after their death. Yes I believe Jesus existed, but I simply do not believe he was part of a Triune God. If the Hebrew God was a 3 in 1, I think the Jews would have picked up on it thousands of years ago.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Emperor Constantine and his cronies have a lot of confused people to answer for!

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Noone said anything about a trinity.

    You don't have to have a trinity if Jesus is God.

    You confirmed that the bible says it....

    Sirona

  • Sad emo
    Sad emo

    Mary, what about these:

    Isaiah 40:25 - "To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal?" says the Holy One. - nobody else has the same divine qualities as God?

    Isaiah 42:8 - "I will not yield my glory to another" - yet Jesus claimed that glory for himself.

    Isaiah 44:24 - "I am the LORD who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself" - God had no co-creator?

    Of course if these verses were read apart from all the ones in Sirona's post, they could equally prove that Jesus isn't God!

  • AlphaOmega
    AlphaOmega

    Sirona,

    Are those the Rocky Horror fangs, or are they from "Vamp"?

    or neither?

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