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Help! Calling all Ex-Elders for advice on Appeal Commitee Situation
by flipper 46 Replies latest jw friends
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Open mind
Ahh Nvr!
There you go dragging us all up to a higher astral plane. I'm worried about you dude!
Get on back down here in the JW gutter of pettiness and senseless strife.
Open Mind
(just teasin'. I'll really join you up there someday) -
nvrgnbk
Ahh Nvr!
There you go dragging us all up to a higher astral plane. I'm worried about you dude!
Get on back down here in the JW gutter of pettiness and senseless strife.
Open Mind
(just teasin'. I'll really join you up there someday)Sorry bro. There's nothing you can say to me to bring me back down into that muck and mire.
Love you OpenMind!
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Elsewhere
One word... "High Control Religious Cult".
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flipper
Thank you all so much for all this help! You guys are awesome. mrs flipper here chiming in - I also can't believe all the time and effort into this deal with mr flipper. Do you think it could have something to do with mr f's older brother....he is the one the daughter and exwife called up right after their spying mission to our house in aug., to get the family informed of our "fornication", rather than calling the parents directly, probably because they know Mr f's mom thinks they are a couple of gossipy troublemakers. This brother was raised in the org. spent 7 years at Bethel NY, is an elder and supervises the quickbuilds in Calif. Total Superdub. add in my impression that he is and has always been resentful and jealous of his little brother mr. flipper, and that he would like to see the family shun him. He is the one that took the info from the daughter and ex immediately to the parents and they all wrote shunning letters that night. His own letter was extremely judgemental and insulting. What might really piss him off is the parents only shunned for a month or 2, now they talk on the phone, write, and are coming to visit. And that mr f's mom likes to say that mr f has always had a justice streak. Mr f thinks his older bro is too busy and wouldn't have time for such crap. But all these busy elders have wasted huge amounts of time on this. The brother and parents live about 5 hours away in the same small town, probably don't know these jc elders, but if the bro is petty enough maybe he is in phone contact. There, I'm done. You are all so kind to read and respond to all this......flipper the concerned female mammal mate.
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Frank75
you have not been to the meetings, so out of the Borg you go. I am surprised it has gone this far in the appeals process. Most appeals committees I dealt with would have said "4 years inactive? forgeddaboudim!"
That has always been my experience as well. "YOU ARE NOT OF LANDREW, YOU ARE NOT OF THE BODY!!!"
New strategy Mr Flipper, Call them back and tell them, "Yeah we were F*&%ing that night like rabbits, we did some anal, lots of oral and we even had the neighbour lady in for a threesome and finsihed off with the cat."
See how that moves things along.
Frank75
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flipper
Snakesin the Tower and all, thanks! But Snakes to answer your questions, your assessment of time frames are correct. I don't know why they waited 2 months to df me from the absentia meeting till they came to my door to tell me? Maybe they need geritol,old joints, I don't know. The df announcement has been held in abeyance until it's the end of the matter, fat lady sings, 9th inning 3 outs, whatever superlative you want to add! Snakes, what is your take from other ex-elders on this post who say because of the false accusation from ex-wife and daughter, and that they told my parents I had committed fornication before they went to the elders with it, do you think I have a good reason to tell my appeal chairman that I want to file charges of slander against my ex-wife and younger daughter? The ex got my whole family fired up and they sent shunning letters to me and mrs. Flipper 1 month before we got married. To me, that's pretty slanderous. My ex also maligned another sister in a congregation who did massage for a living, telling others that the sister was bad association for having men come to her home for massages. It necessitated the po in her hall to give a condemning local needs talk putting down gossiping about brothers and sisters. So I'm not my ex-wifes only victim here. There is a trend and precedent. Please advise, Snakes. I respect your opinion
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flipper
Doggone it, Frank 75....how did you know? Now we're busted for sure. mrs flipper
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SnakesInTheTower
flipper...
do you think I have a good reason to tell my appeal chairman that I want to file charges of slander against my ex-wife and younger daughter?
yes you have good reason and no I dont think you should do it. Looks like sour grapes either way. If they are leaning into reversing the decision, you going for the jugular will only make you look "not humble" not "Waiting on Jehovah" (tm) ..and make them rethink not d/f you. If the appeals committee (or service desk) has any brains, they will pursue the slander.... (despite being a dolphin, you can only hold your breath so long before coming up for air....)
If they decide not to d/f afterall, you could make some humble whimpering noises at the end..such as "i have really been stumbled by the way we were slandered but I love Jehovah...." (head hanging down)...and leave it at that...go back to fading....and understand they will have someone watching you...although being further away may stop some of that...and they probably wont give your ex any more of their time.
but if they d/f you, they will not be interested in your testimony about slander because apparently it is not slander and the charges are true in their eyes.
peace out, i need to go to bed..post here or if i dont reply here, pm me....
SnakesInTheTower (of the "glad Im not an elder anymore" Sheep Class)
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lrkr
Another thing you could do- get to the CO and/or DO and explain how the JC is being used as a political weapon of your ex-wife. This is really affecting you (depression due to the strain on family relationships). Look the victim. Make sure they understand the ridiculous time frames.