Mommie D and others beliefs on creation?

cindy

From most of the topics and replies I have come to believe that most everyone here still believes in God and Jesus and The Bible. Recently on a thread I've been on I've discovered many do not. I want to know what Mommie Dark and others believe on the subject of creation and Jesus. Mommie Dark believes that The Bible is a book of old tribal superstitions, anyone else? How do you explain the big bang theory? You could explain it to me all day long, but I still could not understand how order can come from total disorder. The big bang theory only reinforces my belief in God. How can a big explosion out in space create life?

Or, how about Jesus, how do you explain him. Who was he and why is he so important to so many people? How do you explain the Old Testament foretelling him before he was ever born. The Old Testament told of his birth, death, and resurrection. Some of these things are totally factual, how do you explain them away?

SixofNine

My, my, my, are you about to learn a bit.

larc

cindy,

You throw a lot of questions into a small amount of space, so let's slow it down a bit. Do you believe in the big bang theory? If so why; if not why not? The big bang theory has nothing to do with the time and method of creation. That is a separate question. So, I have to ask: what are your thoughts on creation. Now the third subject, i.e., Jesus is a third, independent subject altogether? Where do you want us to start?

COMF

The Old Testament told of his birth, death, and resurrection. Some of these things are totally factual

It's good that you realize some of them are not. Fasten your seatbelt and keep an open mind.

COMF

Satanus

cindy

Good questions.

How do you know that total disorder preexisted order? How do you know that there wasn't something else not nessesarily god before that? If you have ever seen a picture of a cine wave, you know that the wave oscilates alternately below the average and above the average. This applies to electronics and sound. Something like positive pressure and negative pressure or vacuum. If this principle was applied in the big bang theory, then a negative or mirror universe of antimatter or somesuch may have preexisted. Just thoughts.

Here is another thought. Hydrogen gas clouds pictures were shown the last couple of years, stars were seen in the process of being created out of the hydrogen gas. Due to the time it takes light to travel, it was about 6000 years ago where that was happening. Of course no one could prove god wasn't doing it, but no could prove that he was. Let's say that he wasn't responsible, then the universe may be creating these stars itself. Kinda leaves god out of the picture, if you see what i mean.

On the other hand, maybe god is the universe, or rather, maybe he underlies everything. I'm not sure.

S

cindy

larc,

I believe in creation, the Genisis version of creation. Like I said before, you could explain the big bang theory all day and I still would not understand it. I guess I should say believe it. How many times have you ever seen an explosion creating any kind of order? I just want to know how you make sense of it.

As for Jesus, I'm sure or I guess that we all agree that he existed. So lets start from there. This question was really directed to Mommie Dark since she believes The Bible is a book of superstion. I would be happy to hear your belifs too. If you believe Jesus existed, who was he?

Satanus

cindy

Can i give my opinion on who jesus may have been, provided he existed? He was a jew, who for some reason or another had a tremendous spiritual experience. He experienced the unity with the universe similar to what some buddhist, hindus or other mystics do. Naturally, he fitted this experience into the traditions of the time, using contemporary terminology. None of the narrow minded jews, not even the gospel writers understood his meanings. One who has had a similar experience can pick out what is left of his original meanings.

The funny thing is, that secular contemporary testimony, if put together, doesn't fill even one page. That is rather strange, considering as he is supposed to have been the greatest man who ever lived. There were a few men around the same time period who are supposed to have lived similar lives with miracles, crucifictions, teaching etc. Is it possible that some of those stories were merged together around this one person?

S

Satan

Mommie D and others beliefs on creation?

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