Americans fail to care about other's?

by Amazing 31 Replies latest jw friends

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  Seeker

  Tell a lie often enough, long enough, and people start to believe it.

  That is not only correct, it is virtually universal among governments. The U.S. government is no exception to this day. Propaganda goes out from all sides, and sometimes lies get told. As I pointed out in another thread a week or so ago, Bush lied to us over this matter when he said the evidence against bin Laden was certain. After he said that to the American public, senior staff members at the CIA, FBI, and in Congress told a magazine reporter that the reason we haven't been shown the proof against bin Laden yet is because they didn't have enough hard evidence to show. So much for what Bush told us.

  I love America, but I apply the same standards to it that I apply to any other government, or organization like the WTS: If they do wrong, I won't cover it over.
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  Kent

  Hi Amazing;

  Generally we agree. I know 98% or so of the Norwegian population is against death sentence - but as for Tim McVeigh I agree with you full heartedly. I wouldn't mind being the one executing someone like him. Some people simply doesn't deserve to live - and there is no reason for keeping them allive for ever to great expences - just to "punish" them for revenge.

  Maybe Jews came to Palestine before the state of Israel was a fact. I was thinking of what happened AFTER the state of Israel was made a reality.

  Menachem Begin was not a freedom fighter according to GB authorities, he was a terrorist - and was sentenced to death for having killed lots of British soldiers.

  I also know the Jews are strong in the US today, and I really appretiated the fact that Bush and Blair both said the solution in Palestine would be a Palestine state.

  The problem is the strong influence of Jews in both the US and the rest of the world. We just got a new government in Norway, and the prime minister wouldn't condemn Israel if they detonated nuclear bombs in Palestine refugee camps! He's from the Christian Peoples Party, and among his strong supporters are the people running a certain Christian paper in Norway - well - the editor was so extreme he was even fired from there! But the paper supports ideas like: "The European Union is the Beast of Revelation" and the like.

  Bondevik, which is the name of the bastard, would agree to anything Israel would do - and - I'm afraid, the two other conservative parties that supports him would as well.

  The reason? Israel is God's People! Simple as that! They have the RIGHT to do what they want, and the Palestinians are worth shit.

  So, I'm really happy Bush and Blair seems to open the door a little bit for the Palestinian state. I'm afraid a solution to the Palestinian problem is the one most important issue for fighting terrorism from hardliners from Islamic countries.

  And yes, I believe we can communicate. I don't take anything personal in exchanges of opinions, and I believe it's important to see as many sides as possible to any problem. And this IS a difficult problem.

  Of course the US have the right to defend itself. Of course they should punish the ones responsible for bombings of ships, embassys and buildings - as long as they punish the guilty.

  Of course I support fight against terrorism! That's not the issue. As for the war against Irak, even Norway had Navy ships in the Persian Gulf :)) We had fighters in the fight against Molosovich, and Norwegians aren't any better than Americans. Problem is with countries as with people. Power makes corruption - and absolute power makes absolute corruption. It's adviceable to keep at least one eye a little open :))

  I said Norway had a bad reputation for actions agains jews. We didn't kill them - but they had many restrictions. As had many other non-norwegians. Gypsies were actually lobothomized in Norway, and that's not THAT many years back!

  So, everyone has skeletons in the closet. The important thing is to admit errors - and try not to do the same errors over and over again.

  See ya, my friend.

  Yakki Da

  Kent

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