Would It Have Been Better To Remain In Ignorance About The Organization? (page 3)

minimus

Richard, did you write an "article"? I must've missed it.

return visitor

Richard, did you write an "article"? I must've missed it.

lol, i caught that too.

OnTheWayOut

However,
who would like to weigh and measure
the other side of the argument?

"If I stayed ignorant, I would be
surrounded by family and friends
and have the prospect for ever-
lasting life."

You might have to pick up that argument yourself, Wanderer.
You would only THINK you have the prospect for everlasting life-
Refer back to Blondie's example.

It is not without merit that you consider that some of us were
happier in "the lie" than outside of it. But oppression is not
okay just because the people have false hope. The damage
done to children and depressed ones is absolutely terrible, and
no amount of happiness for the well-adjusted (fully assimilated)
members can justify the damage.

IP_SEC

I have a hard time imagining a scenario where ignorance is a preferable alternative.

changeling

The truth sometimes hurts, but it's better than a lie any day!

My only regret is not finding the real truth sooner.

changeling

return visitor

But oppression is not
okay just because the people have false hope. The damage
done to children and depressed ones is absolutely terrible, and
no amount of happiness for the well-adjusted (fully assimilated)
members can justify the damage.

Amen brother

TD

.....and have the prospect for everlasting life."

That's an interesting word choice

"Prospect" and "Hope" are not the same thing. While a "Prospect" is a chance at an eventuality that is or can be demonstrated to be real, a "Hope" is simply the desire for something to happen no matter whether it be real or not.

If the JW concept of everlasting, corporeal life is not real, then nobody, JW or not actually has this prospect. JW's can hope all they want, but that does not a prospect make,

It is semantic faux pas like these that often distinguish real voices of reason and moderation from active JW's pretending to be such

dawg

Onthewayout has a great point.... ignorance can be bliss and there are those that like a controlled life. I can state for a fact that I'm NOT happier than when I was in the cult... but here's why. All of my family is still in the cult and they make my life misirable for two reasons, one they refuse association with me and the second is I know, and i think they know, that the cult is utter bull. SO i'm left with the burden of making them see the facts; I feel it's my duty when I see my 13 year old nephew baptised that I destroy thise bastards and keep him from being enslaved.

The slave owners in the south is a great anyology; none of my famly's slaves left the plantation after the war becasue my GGGGGG-Grandad was truly good to them and they hadn't one iota how great freedom actually is. Had they left the protection of my grandfather they'd have the idiots here in the south hanging them and the like; they'd seen this reality face to face, they knew this was real. THere's always been those that've brought their people out of horrors-sometimes kicking and screaming; WEB Dubois, GW Carver, KIng, among so many others all were groundbreakers, they're mission came at a great cost but totally worth the price. I'm not a Christain but Jesus saidit best, what greater love can someone have then to offer their life for the ones they love.

For folks like Flipper, I can't speak for him but he may not have a reason to tackle this Elepahnt, but for me... Screw the witnesses, they're wrong and theyr're hurting my family.. and just like the slave fzmlies of old, they will be much better off once they leave the auspices of their master the FADS. me doing what i'm doing now will save so much suffering in the future; this is a burdern that i must bear and I will FUC&INg never back away from it.

memario

Every time I think I'm over it, something reminds me that I'm not. The feelings of never being good enough. The emotional paralysis.

same page here on this issue!

franzy

"isn't this question a flawed one?"

maybe because minimus didn't ask it? :)

Would It Have Been Better To Remain In Ignorance About The Organization?

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