We have the truth - part 2

by MutualRespectPlease 100 Replies latest jw friends

  • eclipse
    eclipse

    Is this the right section of this forum to write about this? I hope so. Maybe I am just boring everyone or driving you crazy. About the terms thing. I know that we use terms that are not found in the Bible, such as pioneer. But what are we supposed to use? You guys use that term "cognitive dissonance" with no problem. Does doing what is right in God's eyes mean we have to use only Bible terms? There is more evidence. I have seen with my own eyes that the demons hate the Witnesses. True, they hate God, but they especially hate the Witnesses. In my years of experience, I have seen so many cases of demons complaining about Jehovah. I have seen people who are tortured by demons and have yelled out "lord" and didn't get relief. But they did when they called on Jehovah. I have sat at deathbeds of people who left the Witnesses and had them tell me that they knew it was the truth, they just didn't want to live it. As far as all these comments (I read six years of posts in the last month, I read fast)about the WT being a publishing organization, and a real estate organization, remember this: Who is getting rich? Which individual? Which person? NAME HIM. There is no one. I know, I have friends who make those deals for real estate and sales of the WT Kingdom Farm. Are they rich? In any other organization, SOMEONE IS GETTING RICH. Not here. Those who think so don't know the brothers and sisters who live in Bethel. They talk secondhand or thirdhand or fourthhand. I know the organization is not perfect. But God has always had his people. We make mistakes, but overall there is a mountain of evidence that there is a truth and that we have it. In a few weeks I will probably have that part on the Service Meeting that says not to form all these independent study groups. Have I accomplished anything? Will all of you just write back and tell me to examine this or that, (which I already did) and then say, "Well, let's give him time." What will happen is that I will realize that spending time on here strengthened my faith. And what about those "experts" that you all quote? I have read some of their books actually. Very similar stuff, the seven signs of a mind-control cult, etc. But think about it. After all these "experts" on cults finish writing their books and articles that you quote from, they go home. They go home to families. Do you want to be like them? Do you really feel that their book applies to Jehovah's Witnesses? This is not about recipes, and movies that we all like. This is about our lives, and whether or not God has his people organized here on earth. I am not frustrated, tired, burned-out, or confused. I work secularly now, to help my family, so I interact with people on a daily basis. Without giving away what I do, people tell me about their lives, and don't know I am a Witness. Even Witnesses tell me about their lives and they don't know I am a Witness. The difference is amazing. How knowing Jehovah and trying to do his will makes people so happy. How many young people do I meet with that with that wish they had guidance instead of sleeping around and not being able to trust someone. Stuck on alcohol, drugs, parties, being taken advantage of. How many young people do I see, whose life is just not happy unless they are serving Jehovah? You know, when people are sick, they tell you all about their life and reality. What they really wanted. Jehovah's organization is all about reality, helping people in the most important ways. So many wait until they are dying until they say, "I wish I had done my life differently." This site seems to be all people who had a rough time. Look, a lot of it is not your fault, its the system we live in. Some of you yes, seem to want an excuse to disobey clearly stated Bible principles. Hope I dont' offend you by saying that. It is not easy to serve God and to try and follow his guidelines. But it is worth it. The happiness I see among the Witnesses is so lacking among others. Perfect? NO. Happy, yes. I know some of you will pick apart my comments one by one. Maybe some of you will feel sorry for me somehow, so that it seems like I haven't "seen the light" like you have. Some will say, "Give him time." Of course, say what you want. But we are individuals, and although we may write some bluster on here, when it's just us and God, then what? Then what? What do you REALLY believe? Is there a God named Jehovah who wants us to worship him? Is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will? I say YES. I love you all.


    -''anonymous brother who cannot use his real name here or else he would be punished by mother''.
  • carla
    carla

    " I have seen with my own eyes that the demons hate the Witnesses. True, they hate God, but they especially hate the Witnesses"-- is that comment supposed to lend credence to anything you have to say? What is the point to that? You see demon possesion everywhere? There are many in psych wards that claim the same.

    I would sugget you research your own history as you seem woefully unaware of the history of the wt. As for your constant use of the word jehovah, do you know your own literature says it is an incorrect pronunciation? It was made up in about 1270 by a Catholic monk by the name of Martini. Yet the jw's insist one must use that word, call upon jah for a slim chance at making it through the big A or to some fictious unbiblical paradise earth. You are unaware of your own pagan origins, pagan practices and occult inflluences within the jw's.

    Then you should take some time and study cults and what constitutes a cult and how the jw's fit in so perfectly with the description of one. If you were truly a lover of truth you would be free to study anything you wish even if meant finding out the wt has it completely wrong and are unbiblical and occutlitish and cultish in nature. If you were a lover of truth you would wish to find these things out. You would care more about God, Jesus and what they have to say than what some perverts in NY have to tell you and how you should think.

    Next look up Auld Soul and answer some questions he had for jw's. We are all waiting for any jw to answer many questions. When they can't they disappear. No doubt they run back to the cong thinking they had such a close call with so called apostates. If any jw had true faith or what they call 'the truth' then nothing could sway them could it? Truth can always stand up to scrutiny. Do what you ask others at the door to do, examine your faith, your religion and ask questions.

  • BFD
    BFD

    MRP,

    How can you have read six years of posts and still reach this conclusion. Yes, men are imperfect. Can you provide the mountain of evidence that the WTS is God's organization on earth? Can you please use paragraphs next time. Holy cow, it's like there's demons messing with my eyes while trying to read your post.

    BFD

  • ninja
    ninja

    and mine looking at your avatar BFD

  • return visitor
    return visitor

    MRP,

    I used to be like you, seeing only what I wanted to see, but then I took my blinders off. Now I see people of every religion, color, and cread who are happy. Are there those in the world who have ruined their lives with all sorts of vices? Definitely, but the same holds true for witnesses I know. The Org. puts unnecessary burdens on people in the name of God robbing them of their joy. If you are happy then good for you, but after 25 years of following man's directives, that changed in the twinkeling of an eye, I said "enough" and now the only unhappiness I have in my life is the unhappiness of knowing I would loose friends and family if they knew what I really felt and thought.

    Respectfully,

    RV

  • bigdreaux
    bigdreaux

    the part about demons had me cracking up. i would love to hear of a real life experience you've had where demons were talking to you. also, the one about people possesed by demons made me sick. what you are basically saying, is, god is such a hard-ass, that, he won't help you until you call him by the name you people have given him. lol that cracks me up. like god's up there going,,,,,what's the magic word?

    please? wrong

    lord? wrong

    god? wrong again

    jehovah? Hey you got it, now i will help you.

    if your god really is like this, you can have him.

  • changeling
    changeling

    Paragraphs, I need paragraphs!

    changeling

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Two threads by MRP and he or she can`t be bothered to reply to either.......MRP..I would like a reply to my post,on your last thread...OUTLAW

  • return visitor
    return visitor

    the part about demons had me cracking up. i would love to hear of a real life experience you've had where demons were talking to you. also, the one about people possesed by demons made me sick. what you are basically saying, is, god is such a hard-ass, that, he won't help you until you call him by the name you people have given him. lol that cracks me up. like god's up there going,,,,,what's the magic word?

    please? wrong

    lord? wrong

    god? wrong again

    jehovah? Hey you got it, now i will help you.

    if your god really is like this, you can have him.

    LOL, never thought about it that way, you make a good point, don't think I really want him either.

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Folks...DO YOU THINK THIS JUST MIGHT BE A DIVERSION TACTIC!

    Look at the posts that are now no longer getting any action, and ask yourselves why? It's like the news.....the most provocative headline gets the coverage and important stuff to discuss dies on the vine like the KINGDOM MINISTRY COMING OUT IN SEPT.!!!

    SOMETHING HAS TRIGGERED THIS......DON'T BE SUCKED IN!

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