Pro-life arguments

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  • Forscher
    Forscher

    I once got restricted on this site for pointing out the obvious about abortion. Well, here goes.

    I've noticed that those who oppose abortion yet support capital punishment were accused of hypocrisy. But I can't help but wonder if the same charge can't be leveled at those who take the opposite stand. My question on the matter is motivated by the nature of certain abortion procedures.

    Abortificants used in early term abortions were already mentioned, and I am not going to go down that road since it gets into the question of whether a zygote should be considered a unique human being or not. That is a question which can be argued over until the cows come home without getting anywhere. However, I do have issues with procedures often used to abort fetuses.

    Until the Supreme Court upheld the federal partial birth abortion ban four procedures were commonly used to perform abortions from the second trimester to birth, induced labor, dilatation and evacuation (D&E), and dilatation and extraction (D&X, the partial birth abortion). Induced labor is self explanatory. Labor is induced and the fetus is delivered and allowed to die if it is non-viable, that is too early in the pregnancy to live. However, it is not that simple. Generally the fetus is killed while in the womb by either an injection of a drug or other poisonous substance directly to the fetus, or an injection of a highly saline solution into the amniotic bag, effectively burning the fetus to death chemically, then labor is induced.

    D&V is performed by dilating the cervix and inserting some sort of sharp instrument into the uterus and cutting the fetus to pieces then extracting the pieces both manually and by vacuum. Now mind you, nothing is given the fetus to kill the pain which even an immature nervous system can feel during the procedures I just outlined. Sadly enough, recent research indicates that fetuses from an early stage of development on experience more pain than previously assumed by scientists. So those procedures are very much equivalent in my mind to those brutal punishments meted out to criminals in the 18th century which our founding fathers chose to forbid in the fifth amendment to the Constitution.

    So objecting to capital punishment on the grounds that it is inherently too cruel for a civilized people (not entirely unreasonable as far as I am concerned), and yet supporting a woman's "right to choose" to abort her baby right up to birth by one of these methods is every bit an inconsistent stand on the part of those folks as the pro-life and pro-capital punishment crowd.

    I've already gone on record in this forum as something of an incrementalist on the issue. I object to abortion being used as just another form of birth control because I do believe that human life is a gift and should be so treated. However, I've seen what happens when a woman subjected to a rape becomes pregnant up close and personal. It isn't pretty, even when the woman believes that every human life is precious and opts not to abort a baby who is not guilty of any crime other than being alive. The woman I know kept the baby, tried to raise it, but the constant reminder of how the child came to be wore too heavily on her and caused her to raise the child in a warped manner. That child is now a young adult who wishes he/she was never born and engaged in self0destructive behavior which may well bring it to an early death. So I am not going to stand in judgment of any woman in that sad situation who happens to decide to end the pregnancy. Sure, I'd prefer the baby to be born and given to folks who will love it, but I am not prepared to ofrce the woman to do that.

    Medical issues are a red herring. The truth is that medical care has advanced to the point that there is really no medical problem which presents such a danger to the mother that an abortion is the only choice to save the mother (I posited placenta abrutio to an RN recently as such an example and was informed that even it can be successfully handled medically). So the concern which the Supreme Court to mandate all anti-abortion laws must allow is pretty much moot. Certainly if such a situation genuinely arises I would not demand that the mother must die to bring a knew life into the world.

    Forscher

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    * This is untrue. The terms "fetus" and preborn (unborn) child are synonyms. Actually, the "fetus" becomes a "neonate" at birth. If we use scientific or medical terms, we must do so consistently. "Fetus "is a medical/scientific term for a preborn baby; "neonate" is the equivalent term for a newborn baby. Saying the fetus is not a child is as ridiculous as saying the neonate is not a child. Both are scientific terms for children, before and after birth, respectively.

    At birth, the preborn child becomes a newborn child. At birth, the fetus becomes a neonate. Both sentences say the same thing, one in common English, the other in scientific jargon.

    * There is only one "good" reason for claiming that the fetus is not a child: this lie enables pro-abortionists to advocate the killing of innocent children without having to admit it.

    * Despite the previous statement, when referring to a mother who is happily pregnant, does the pro-abortionist ask: "How's your fetus?" or "How's your product of conception doing?" or say "My, that potential life is starting to show?" Not likely! The pro-abortionist will probably use that four-letter word: "baby."

    Looked at another way, the pro-abort calls the baby destined to be killed "a fetus," yet may call the fetus destined to be born "a baby." Inconsistent? Yes!

    It is unfair to label preborn people on the basis of whether or not someone else wants them (or wants to kill them!). Saying the fetus is not a child merely elevates this inequity to an outright lie.

    * Personhood:

    o Pope John Paul II: "In virtue of a personal dignity, the human being is always a value as an individual, and as such demands being considered and treated as a person and never, on the contrary, considered and treated as an object to be used or as a means or as a thing."

    o "In effect, the acknowledgment of the personal dignity of every human being demands the respect, the defense and the promotion of the rights of the human person. It is a question of inherent, universal, and inviolable rights. No one, no individual, no group, no authority, no state, can change-let alone eliminate-them because such rights find their source in God himself."

    o In the previous century, Negroes were not considered persons (i.e. citizens) in this country, at least in the legal sense. The infamous Dred Scott decision was born of a mentality which asserted that the status of personhood is not inherent for every human being. Black slavery was not merely legal; having a slave entailed certain "rights." In this century, in Nazi Germany, Jews and others were designated as "nonpersons" (not citizens) by the government. Thus the extermination of six million Jews was perfectly "legal" (at least until the Nuremburg trials). Likewise, in the last 16 years 25 million preborn Americans have been killed in their mother's wombs and this is perfectly "legal." Regardless of legality, the denial of personhood to a human being is always unjust.

    o In America, since 1973, whereas Exxon or any other corporation has, in some ways, the legal status of "person," a baby one day before birth does not.

  • emy the infidel
    emy the infidel
    It's not like the death penalty has never killed innocent people.

    Convicted murderers in a court of law facing a possible death penalty have MANY more rights than,

    unborn babies in their mothers' wombs.

    Moral equivalency is neither moral or equivalent, i.e., convicted murderers being compared to unborn children.

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    [Anyone who seriously considers the health of the mother as an important factor in abortion should condemn abortion. Here's why.]

    Complications

    * Breast cancer
    * Acute grief reaction
    * Emotional disturbances
    * Pelvic inflammatory disease
    * Uterine perforation
    * And more?

    Most common complications

    Recent studies have revealed new evidence of damage created by abortion. Following legal abortion, you may have the following chances of complications.

    Breast cancer
    Recent studies have pointed out that there is what some might term a "dramatic relationship" between the rate of abortion and the rising incidence of breast cancer among women who have aborted. In fact, as the rate of abortion rises in America, so does the rate of breast cancer, with the most increased rate being among those women who have had abortions. Somerville, Scott, Esq., Before You Choose, AIM publications, 10/1/93; Willke, J.C., M.D., The Deadly After-Effect of Abortion: Breast Cancer, Hayes Publishing, 1993

    Post-abortion grief
    This has been identified in numerous studies as a serious complication of induced abortion. Human Medicine 1991; 7:3:203-9

    Acute grief reaction
    Experienced by 3 in 4 (77%) if abortion is for genetic reasons. British Medical Journal 1985; 290:907-9

    Emotional and physical disturbances
    Experienced by 1 in 2 (50%). These disturbances may last for months (may include depression, insomnia, nervousness, guilt, and regret). McGovern, Celeste, "Hag-Ridden by Post-Abortion Guilt," British Columbia Report, 10/18/93; British Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1980; 87:1115-22

    Complications in future pregnancies
    Experienced by 1 in 4 (24.3%). May include excessive bleeding, premature delivery, cervical damage, and sterility. Acta/Obstetrics and Gynecology Scandinavia 1979; 58:491-4

    Pelvic inflammatory disease:
    (PID) A first-trimester abortion can result in bacterial vaginosis, leading to PID--a condition that must be treated. American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1992; 166:100-103

    Uterine perforations:
    It can well occur that uterine perforations go unrecognized and untreated. Bernadell Technical Bulletin 1989; 1:1:1-2

    Breast cancer:
    140% increased risk following a abortion. British Journal of Cancer 1981; 43:72-6

    Tubal pregnancy:
    Legal abortion appears to contribute to an increase in ectopic pregnancy in younger women when associated with pelvic inflammatory disease. American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1989; 160:642-6

    30% increased risk after one abortion. 160% increased risk after two or more abortions. American Journal of Public Health 1982; 72:253-6

    Placenta previa:
    A condition producing extremely severe, life-threatening bleeding in future pregnancies. 600% increased risk following an abortion. American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1981; 141:769-72

    Decreased maternal bonding:
    The loss of a baby through abortion may cause a mother to be less affectionate toward future children and may contribute to child abuse. Canadian Journal of Psychiatry 1979; 24:610-20

    Increased bleeding during subsequent pregnancies.
    American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1983; 146:136-40

    Retention of placenta:
    Increase during subsequent pregnancies. Acta/Obstetrics and Gynecology Scandinavia 1979; 58:485-90

    Women at higher risk following an abortion

    Several groups of women are at significantly higher risk for post-abortion problems. They should be particularly aware of the greater potential for complications.

    Women under 20 experience a 2 times greater risk of medical complications than for women aged 25-29. Canadian Journal of Public Health 1982; 73:396-400

    1 in 24 (4.1%) have experienced immediate medical complications. (These have included severe bleeding, infection, perforation of the uterus, and part of the baby being retained.) Canadian Journal of Public Health 1982; 73:396-400

    150% greater risk of cervical injury than for women over 30 years of age. New England Journal of Medicine 1983; 309:621-4

    Women who've had a previous abortion 200% increased risk of miscarriage after two or more abortions. Journal of the American Medical Association 1980; 243:2495-9

    160% increased risk of tubal pregnancy. American Journal of Public Health 1982; 72:253-6

    Increased risk of abnormal positioning of the baby in future pregnancies. American Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology 1983; 146:136-40

    Women with previous or existing pelvic infections (PID) experience a decrease in fertility following an abortion. Acta/Obstetrics and Gynecology Scandinavia 1979; 58:539-42

    More days of post-abortion pain. Acta/Obstetrics and Gynecology Scandinavia 1982; 61:357-60

    Increased risk of tubal pregnancy following an abortion. American Journal of Public Health 1982; 72:253-6

    This brochure is not long enough to list the more than 750 references in medical literature, each of which indicate serious complications to legalized abortion. For a complete listing, please send $18.00 to The Rutherford Institute, P.O. Box 7482, Charlottesville, VA 22906-7482, 1-804-978-3888, and request "Major Articles and Books Concerning the Detrimental Effects of Abortion."

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Pregnancy kills too many U.S. mothers

    One out of 4,800 die from problem childbirths

    By Ashley Gosik
    Cox News Service
    Saturday, October 13, 2007

    WASHINGTON -- The United States ranks 41st of 171 countries for maternal mortality, with one in 4,800 women dying from pregnancy complications, several major international organizations reported Friday.

    The United States was tied with the eastern European country of Belarus and just above Serbia and Montenegro. Ireland led the world with one death in 47,600, followed by Bosnia and Herzegovina and Italy. Niger had the most deaths per pregnancy at one in seven.

    The report was issued by the World Health Organization, the United Nations Population Fund, the U.N. Children's Fund, the U.N. Population Division, and The World Bank.

    In a telephone press conference, organizers of an upcoming international conference on maternal health reviewed the organizations' conclusions along with health care experts and lawmakers.

    "The assumption that motherhood is the most natural thing in the world and that there is nothing to worry about is wrong," said Rep. Lois Capps, D-Calif. "Clearly there is something to worry about when someone dies every minute from childbirth."

    One of the most common causes of maternal mortality is preeclampsia, a form of toxemia, or pregnancy-induced hypertension.

    According to the Preeclampsia Foundation, preeclampsia accounts for about 18 percent of maternal deaths in the United States, compared with 15 percent globally. In the last decade, the incidence of preeclampsia in the United States rose by 40 percent.

    Increasing rates of obesity, diabetes, and high blood pressure in the United States may account for the greater frequency of preeclampsia and other pregnancy complications, according to the foundation.

    Other direct causes of maternal mortality in the United States include hemorrhage, infection and complications from pre-existing medical conditions.

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    The claim that abortion is safer than childbirth has been used as a legal precedent in the judicial overturn of laws restricting abortion. However, a literature review shows that morbidity-mortality data for abortion and child birth are not always comparable. Abortion and childbirth are dissimilar in intent, stage of pregnancy, method and manner. Factors that may skew the comparison of childbirth versus abortion risks include: Intervals that differ for reporting deaths, abortions that can be reported as live births, premature closing of records, abortions that are unreported, abortions performed on women not pregnant, complications not reported by patient, absence of follow-up, abortion estimates that always exceed Public Health Service figures, borderline cases reported inconsistently, and many others.

    Reported risks of induced abortion are numerous; the reports vary widely in the rates reported. Among the risks are: Increased susceptibility of breast cancer (24 times as likely if first pregnancy ends in abortion); predisposition to ectopic pregnancy (one study suggested that 45 percent of all ectopic pregnancies follow induced abortion); uterine infection (up to 17.5 percent of all cases after abortion); uterine hemorrhage (up to 4.9 percent); loss or deformity of subsequent infants; and many others. This literature review provides reason to doubt that abortion is safer than childbirth.
    Introduction

    "Abortion is safer than childbirth" -this claim has been used often to justify legalization of abortion. In fact this assurance loomed large in the reasoning of the pro-abortion Supreme Court decisions1 which claimed that 19th century state anti-abortion laws were enacted primarily to protect women from the high mortality of induced abortion in the 19th century; but now first trimester abortions are as safe or safer than child birth.2

    More recently, the June 15, 1983, Akron and Planned Parenthood (of Kansas City) pro-abortion Supreme Court decisions cited Cates and Grimes on the safety of second-trimester abortion.3

    But even if abortion were allegedly proven safer than childbirth for the expectant mother, that would not justify it; abortion is never safe for the unborn child!
    False Comparison

    Attempting to compare mortality and morbidity rates for women who abort with those who give birth hardly constitutes a foolproof procedure be cause:

    "One of the most frequent warnings which is given regarding the comparison of vital statistics data is that interpretation of differences must not be made when the data are not comparable'... The warning that the data compared especially must be comparable really means that they must be essentially identical in regard to all other factors except the one or ones in terms of which the interpretation is to be made... The failure to take account of differences other than those considered in the interpretation has also been termed the fallacy of concealed classification,"... If we classify males according to occupation, we might find that the death rate of bank presidents is higher than that of news boys; but this would not be because of different ages...An equally serious fallacy arises from failure to consider the period of exposure to risk or the use of an incorrect figure to represent the group exposed to risk."4
    Intrinsic Factors Differ

    The preceding warnings are violated by comparing abortion with childbirth. Abortion is dissimilar from childbirth in respect to (a)intent (abortion intends to destroy the offspring; childbirth aims to deliver the live offspring; (b)duration (most abortions occur before 12 weeks gestation-childbirth usually occurs around 40 weeks gestation); (c)method (abortion is a surgical procedure-childbirth usually is not); and (d)manner (abortion is artificially induced-childbirth is not).

    Even more problems hinder accurate reporting of abortion risks:
    Hesitancy To Admit Risks

    An editorial in the Medical Journal of Australia stated:

    "Traditionally, the medical profession has been unwilling to present concrete facts to the public concerning the possible dangers associated with various procedures, especially surgical procedures. Perhaps it is now time for doctors to be more open and honest and to encourage better education of the community. The general public should be allowed to know that mid-trimester abortions are not simple, safe procedures and that they may carry a significant risk, not only of morbidity, but of death."5

    Willard Cates, M.D., former head of the Centers for Disease Control of the U.S. Public Health Service, has been quoted in additional acknowledgment that underrating is substantial in the event of what abortionists consider a complication to abortion--a live birth. The Philadelphia Inquirer reports:

    "(Live births) are little known because organized medicine, from fear of public clamor and legal action, treats them more as an embarrassment to be hushed up than a problem to be solved. It's like turning yourself in to the IRS for an audit." Cates said. "What is there to gain? The tendency is not to report because there are only negative incentives."6
    Lack of Uniform Definitions

    The U.S. Public Health Service, through the CDC, has stated:

    "An abortion death is defined as one that occurs from complications of an abortion in which the illness leading to the death began within 42 days of the abortion."7

    Yet, the National Center for Health Statistics notes the following variations in state death certificate reports: Alabama, Iowa and New York City ask whether there was a pregnancy within the past six months; Illinois, Nebraska and Virginia, within the past three months; North Dakota, within the past 18 months; and Missouri and New Jersey, within the past 90 days. Only New York City asks questions concerning delivery and live versus still birth.8

    Statistics gathered from pregnancy and childbirth beyond the 42-day limit the CDC used for abortion will bias the results in favor of abortion safety.
    Assignment Of Risks

    The U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) Handbook on the Reporting of Induced Termination of pregnancy states:

    "Although unlikely, the induced abortion procedure may result in a live birth. Should this occur, the report of induced termination of pregnancy is not (emphasis in original) to be filed. Rather a certificate of live birth is to be prepared for the infant."9

    Thus, an operation which began as abortion is statistically recorded as a live birth, and the associated morbidity and mortality will also presumably be attributed to the live birth!

    Additionally, the PHS instructions for filling out the U.S. Standard Report of Induced Termination of Pregnancy instructs the recorder of abortion complications: If no complications have occurred at the time the report is completed. check 'none'...This item will provide data regarding the risk of induced termination" (emphasis in original).10

    Thus, if the abortion report is completed at the time of the abortion, risks may be understated because:

    "As a rule - little blood is lost during the vacuum aspiration procedure itself, and the bleeding due to retained tissue usually does not occur for several days after the procedure ."11

    Intent To Avoid Knowledge Of Abortion And Abortion Complications

    Menstrual regulation, menstrual extraction, endometrial aspiration and surgical aspiration of the uterus are terms which "allow" abortion without prior pregnancy tests. According to abortionist Warren Hern, the term menstrual regulation originated as a euphemism for early abortion prior to legalization of abortion and was perceived by its originators as a useful deception {and is still useful.). . . in a politically repressive setting."12

    Is the performance of menstrual regulation a way of avoiding requirements for reporting morbidity and mortality from early abortion?
    Non-Abortions Reported as Abortions

    False pregnancy tests occur:

    "In a large series of abortions performed during 1970-1971, about 0.3 per cent of all women diagnosed as being pregnant in the first trimester of gestation proved to be not pregnant."l3

    Complication-free abortions, performed on women who are not even pregnant are currently recorded for statistical purposes as "safe abortions"-statistics gained at the expense of unnecessary surgery.

    There is also the circumstance of abortionist physicians who certify a woman's pregnancy without a thorough physical examination.

    In September 1972, Jeanie Barba and Nancy Smith, staff writers for the Santa Monica California, Evening Outlook, authored six articles published Sept. 25-30. 1972) detailing certain aspects of the abortion industry under the California Therapeutic Abortion Act of 1976.

    They wrote:

    "On three separate occasions, within the last two months, a woman investigator hired by the Evening Outlook went through referral and testing procedures and was certified as being pregnant-but she wasn't: "The procedure at most hospitals involved in the abortion business apparently is to take the woman's word that she is pregnant and...to go ahead with an operation without a thorough physical examination.

    "The Evening Outlook investigator's experience bears out this conclusion:"

    "While she was given a blood test and pregnancy test at one hospital, the examining doctor did not wait for results of the tests before certifying her as pregnant. No pregnancy test or blood test was given at the other hospital or at the medical office."14
    Reluctance To Report Abortion Complications

    Women experiencing guilt or shame following abortion may be reluctant to report delayed complications or to permit follow-up surveys at examinations.

    In a prospective survey of first trimester abortion complications. Hodgson noted that 28 of 200 women who might have had complications gave fictitious names." 17 Tietze has also reported an abortion-related death where the woman had used a fictitious name.15
    Abortion Estimates Inflated

    Statistical estimates are extrapolated from abortions actually reported and then used as the baseline for computing mortality and morbidity. These estimates may be higher than the total number of abortions actually performed. Any such overestimates would bias the statistics in favor of abortion safety. The research affiliate of Planned Parenthood. The Alan Guttmacher Institute estimates: "each year generates a total number of legal abortions approximately 10 to 20 percent higher than that reported by CDC."16

    Do doctors. clinics and hospitals keep two abortion tallies, for total count as well as for morbidity and mortality!?

    Additionally, while New York City reported resident and non-resident abortions from July 1, 1970, to June 30, 1972, to total 334,865, Jean Pakter, M.D., stated:

    "After correcting for under-reporting (approximately 16.7 percent), it is conservatively estimated that 402,000 abortions were actually performed in the two-year period."17

    A wide discrepancy in the total number of abortions would necessarily mean a wide shift in the rate of abortion complications, in favor of abortion safety.

    For example, if CDC death estimates are compared to the Guttmacher Institutes estimates of total abortions. the risk ratio will be lower than if CDC figures arc used throughout. Which comparison is correct?
    Abortion Death Excluded from Statistics

    In reporting on New York abortion figures, an abortion-related death was at first included, then later excluded from abortion mortality figures by the same authors.

    Three days after undergoing a suction curettage abortion, a woman committed suicide, not knowing she was never pregnant. Christopher Tietze, M.D., and Alan Guttmacher, M.D., included this as an abortion-related death in a letter in the British medical journal, the Lancet, Jan. 13, 1973. However, Tietze, Pakter and Berger, writing a special communication article in the July 30, 1973, Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), noted this same death but did not compute it in the abortion mortality table. A June 1973 article by Jean Pakter and others in the American Journal of Public Health also did not list the suicide-abortion death. Lastly, an article by Tietze , Pakter, Berger and Katz in the March 1974 issue of Obstetrics and Gynecology did tabulate the death.

    If this same death was reported so differently, could it be that other abortion-related deaths are being excluded too?
    Maternal Mortality Statistics Inflated

    A July 9, 1982 article by Cates and others in JAMA stated, "In Georgia in 1973-76. record linkage of deaths and births found 50 percent more child birth-related deaths 6 (i.e., 50 percent more deaths than had previously been linked to childbirth.)

    The supporting footnote to the Cates article refers to an earlier article by Rubin McCarthy, Shelton et al. which noted that the vital records unit of the Georgia Department of Human Resources classified maternal deaths as those deaths resulting from complications of pregnancy, the childbirth, or the puerperium." 18

    The authors preferred to use the more comprehensive World Health Organization maternal death definition: "The death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy, irrespective of the duration and site of the pregnancy from any cause related to or aggravated by the pregnancy or its management, but not accidental or incidental causes."

    The authors also included deaths up to 189 days after delivery which they believed were related to the childbirth. This expanded definition, including the increase beyond the 42-day period, may have accounted for the 50 percent increase in maternal mortality statistics.
    Other Tactics

    Extensive review of the medical literature shows that some abortion proponents, when confronted with medical articles on abortion deaths or complications, will:

    * Ignore the articles;
    * Claim that the scientific protocol is suspect:
    * Claim that the conclusions are premature or not substantiated elsewhere;
    * Claim there is no universal agreement in scientific circles;
    * Claim that data from foreign sources does not apply to American women;
    * Claim that one abortion procedure cannot be compared to another;
    * Dismiss damaging articles from some foreign countries because of illegality of abortions there, even though performed by physicians:
    * Reclassify abortion-related deaths to other causes or factors; and
    * Blame complications on smoking, drinking or other such factors.

    Possible Adverse Health Consequences Of Legally Induced Abortion
    Breast Cancer

    In a study of 163 women under 32 in the Los Angeles area who developed breast cancer, matched by 163 controls, it was concluded that women who had a first-trimester abortion (induced or spontaneous) before a first full-term pregnancy experienced breast cancer at a rate of 2.4 times that of non-aborting women. 19

    The U.S. Public Health Service s CDC reports 8,595,920 abortions between 1972 and 1980. 20 Utilizing the CDC data on the number of women not having their first full-term pregnancy prior to undergoing elective abortion, upwards of 4,545,000 American women may! be a increased risk of breast cancer because of abortion.
    Ectopic Pregnancy

    Ectopic pregnancy occurs when the fertilized ovum implants outside the womb, such as in the abdominal cavity, ovary or fallopian tube. Ectopic pregnancies can be life threatening.

    In a study which matched control and case subjects for age, parity (number of offspring) and socioeconomic status, it was concluded that induced abortion created a predisposition to ectopic pregnancy in subsequent pregnancies. This study of Greek women revealed 45 percent of all ectopic pregnancies followed induced abortion. 21

    There is the additional consideration of how deaths are reported which result from an abortion and subsequent rupture of a pregnancy misdiagnosed as uterine, but which in fact was ectopic.

    The CDC has noted, "between 1972 and 1977... six women died from ectopic pregnancies after undergoing a legally-induced abortion procedure. Because deaths from ectopic pregnancies are not considered abortion-related... they have not been tabulated."22

    By 1978 the CDC had identified 10 deaths caused by ruptured ectopic pregnancy in women aged 18 to 31 after undergoing legal abortion. Yet none of these deaths were classified as being caused by abortion, even though they were discovered by CDC's abortion surveillance program.23
    Double Abortion

    Abortion proponents claim that suction curettage or vacuum aspiration is the "safest" abortion procedure. Yet, some women undergo two suction procedures to abort the same pregnancy. Thus, risk of abortion death and complications is doubled for such women. If reported twice, complication-free double abortions pad the "safety" figures.

    The following re-evacuation rates have been noted for vacuum abortions.
    No. of Abortions Re-evacuations Percent Author
    16,410 83 .5 Wulff (24)
    1,123 16 1.42 Moberg (25)
    420 14 3.33 Nemec (26)

    Uterine Infection

    Proponents of abortion may try to minimize the risk of dilation and curettage or vacuum aspiration abortions. The comparison below demonstrates the range in the reported incidence of pelvic infection:
    No. of Abortions Percentage of Uterine Infections Author
    16,410 .1 Wulff (24)
    2,972 2.0 Edelman (27)
    1,123 7.2 Moberg (25)
    812 17.5 Stallworthy (28)

    Moberg's infection rate is 72 times that reported by Wulff and both are reporting in respected peer-review journals. Stallworth's reported rate is 175 times the pelvic infection rate reported by Wulff. Which, if any, do we believe?
    Uterine Perforation

    Perforation of the uterus is not always evident during uterine aspiration abortion. Treatment and management of perforation can involve observation alone. laparotomy (surgical incision through the abdominal wall), and hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus).

    Again, the reported rates vary so widely that one wonders what to believe. However, Frederick J. Taussig, M.D., in his classic work; on abortion, said:

    "Perforation is one of those misadventures that probably occur very much more frequently than the printed records would indicate. Most of the cases are never reported because after all, it is usually the operator's fault, and not a pleasant thing to write about. You can hardly find a busy gynecologist who will not, when questioned, tell you of at least one such disagreeable experience."29
    No. of Abortions Percent of Perforations Author and Date
    10,890 .02 Bozorgi 1977
    1,668 .35 Conger 1972
    431 1.13 Brenner 1971
    812 1.72 Stallworthy 1971

    Uterine Hemorrhage

    The amount of blood loss (as reported to public health authorities) varies from 50 milliliters to 500 milliliters.33 Apparently, the Joint Program for the Study of Abortion at the CDC has not established a standard constituting hemorrhage.34 With this fact in mind. note the following reported variations. Again, what are we to believe?
    No. of Abortions Percent of Hemorrhage Min. blood
    Loss Stand. Author
    20,248 .05 ? Hodgson (35)
    2,972 1.3 100 ml Edelman (27)
    3,482 4.9 50 ml Stewart (36)

    Infertility

    Determining the rate of secondary infertility due to induced abortion is complicated by the fact that many women may be deliberately avoiding sub sequent pregnancy. However, evidence in several studies shows a connection between induced abortion and subsequent infertility: In Poland, Midar found 6.9 percent infertility in women who had had induced abortions; 37 Segleneitse reported up to 16 percent in Latvia; and Trichopoulos reported 45 percent in Greece.39

    In the Greek study, each of the 83 women who underwent an illegal dilatation and curettage abortion were matched by two control subjects. The relative risk of secondary infertility among women with at least one induced abortion and no spontaneous abortion was 3.4 times greater than it was among women with no induced or spontaneous abortions.
    Spontaneous Abortion, Fetal Loss, Prematurity and Child Health

    A 1976 study of 211 women who had undergone illegally induced abortion showed 43.2 percent were pregnant within one year of the abortion, with fetal loss among the 211 patients at 17 percent compared with 7.5 percent for women pregnant after spontaneous abortion. Of the 211 who had induced abortions. 4.3 percent of their subsequent pregnancies ended with spontaneous abortion in the first trimester, 8.5 percent in the second trimester, and 13.7 percent in live premature delivery. 40

    A Latvian study of legal abortion within the Soviet territory noted, regarding subsequent pregnancies:

    "First, every sixth to seventh pregnancy ends in spontaneous abortion. Second, a connection has been established between injury during the abortion to the spot where the fetal egg is attached and deformation of the child in a subsequent pregnancy.

    ". . . In a women's hospital in East Germany 250 women who had had abortions were studied and the same number who had never had an abortion. In the first group 56 deformed children had been born; in the second, 15. In the first group there were 1.8 percent more instances when the fetus was in a transverse position, twice as much weakness in the birth process, and- what was most disagreeable-between 055 percent to 1.71 percent more stillbirths. . . In a word the destroyed child takes revenge on the next, desired child.

    "A study was conducted by A. Shustskeya in Byelorussia over a period of 13 years; it covered 7,550 women who had aborted their first pregnancies. Every fifth now suffers from acute or chronic inflammation of the sexual organs. Eight percent (604 women) are barren. Though they had undergone treatment over a period of ten years, they still cannot conceive.

    "More data is provided by T. Fedorova: After the first abortion, 36 percent of the women are chronically unwell. P. Kas'ko and G. Kniga call the first abortion a hormonal shock to the woman's organism, which has not yet reached its full maturity...They studied the delayed (from half a year to two years consequence of this operation and found a hormonal insufficiency in almost half of those examined ."38

    In an American study, women who had legal abortions were compared with women who had term deliveries. The case-control study by Levin, Ryan and others was published in 1980 with support from a grant from the National Foundation--March of Dimes.

    The authors concluded that women who had two or more prior induced abortions had a two- to three-fold increase in spontaneous first-trimester abortion (i.e., miscarriage of a wanted pregnancy) between 14 to 19 and 20 to 27 weeks gestation. Smoking status, prior spontaneous loss, method of prior abortion, or amount of cervical dilation did not explain the results. 34
    Placenta Previa

    If there is a significant degree of placenta previa (i.e., the placenta or afterbirth lies in the lower part of the uterus and blocks passage of the baby in vaginal deliver), Caesarean section is indicated, resulting in higher mortality and morbidity for both mother and child than vaginal delivery.

    A retrospective study has Barret and others at Vanderbilt University concluded that, when compared to a control group, there was a seven- to 15-fold increase in the occurrence of placenta previa in women who had first trimester abortions. The physiological changes in the woman from first-trimester abortions (suction or sharp curettage) apparently are permanent. The authors said it is possible that endometrial scarring from sharp or suction curettage may predispose an abnormal site for placental implantation. 41
    Conclusion

    Indeed, we may never be able to determine the exact complication and death rates from abortion, lacking precise data as a result, in part, of insufficient follow-up of abortions.

    In addition, complications and deaths attributed to subsequent pregnancies may, in reality, have been caused by prior abortion. Statistically, however, such morbidity and mortality is being attributed to pregnancy and childbirth, not to the prior abortion!

    This analysis should, in the very least, cast doubt on the claim, "abortion is safer than childbirth." (For the unborn baby, of course, abortion is never safe: It is meant to be lethal.)

    Since the statistical methodology is questionable (as I believe is evident from this analysis), the conclusion, "Abortion is safer than child birth," may prove untrue for the mother as well.

    An additional point to note is that while abortion proponents claim abortion is safe for women, their analysis of potential harm is limited to certain physical aspects of female anatomy. No mention is made of the psychological social and moral devastation that can accrue to the whole woman from abortion.

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    How about the argument that there are to many humans on this rock already and people who opt for abortions should be applauded as hero's...

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    There are millions of children bought and sold into the sex trade and the outcome is millions of girls who end up with HIV, STD's and unwanted pregnancies through no fault of their own. A child of 6 bought and sold over the next 10 years will most likely endure her own share of pregnancies and either spontaneously abort, suffer a forced abortion or have to make the decision on her own if she gets out alive.

    The majority of abortions around the world are directly related to poverty, lack of education and culture. Overpopulation in some countries is a real threat to those already existing there and where babies die at a ratio of 1/5 from neglect, starvation, malnutrition, lack of health care or even access to health care. A high percentage are born to infected mothers who themselves will die and leave their children behind as orphans or also infected.

    In the USA itself, there are 45 million children without adequate healthcare or non existent health care. Double that number for adults.

    Quality of life should not be thrust aside. We have been given the ability as humans to reason, to think, to understand. Are we so absolute in our belief of a right to life at all costs, that we feel no obligation to take care of those who are here already? If in the USA we were really concerned with life, why wouldn't we make sure all the kids in the USA have health care? Rather than get so upset about 5 kids in Portland asking for birth control, why wouldn't we focus instead on teaching prevention and finding out why the kids are doing it? Shouldn't we be stepping up to the plate with our boys and teaching them responsibility for the sex act and the use of condoms? Why halt the use of the morning after pill? Shouldn't we understand the link between television, MTV videos, song lyrics and programming from all venues and the actions of our kids and sex? Shouldn't we get more kids interested in education and sports because its a fact that the more education one has the less likely abortion in the US is.

    I don't believe there are absolutes because who am I to say that the pregnant child sex slave is wrong to have an abortion at age 13? Who am I to say that the woman struggling with her 5th pregnancy, with too little to eat, with one baby dying of starvation and another laying dead in the ground, is wrong to have an abortion? Who am I to say that the teenager raped by her middle school teacher and traumatized for life by that event, suicidal and teetering on the edge of sanity, is wrong to have an abortion? If these are choices they have to face in their world, it must be their choice because it is their world. I don't live there. sammieswife.

  • Skimmer
    Skimmer

    Argument #13: "There are too many people in the world. The population explosion threatens us all."

    * The population explosion is a myth. Last year the world's population grew less than 1.8%.

    * In many western countries (e.g. Germany), fertility is at or below "replacement levels"; this means their population will start to shrink unless the trend is reversed.

    * Many experts believe that the earth could easily support, at the present standard of living, 40 billion people, 7 times the present number-even at current levels of productivity and technology.

    * Who's to say that there are too many people? Even if this were true, who should be eliminated? The preborn? The aged? The handicapped? The poor? And who should decide who lives and who dies? Murder is never an acceptable solution to society's "problems," real or imagined.

    * Every man, woman, and child in the world could be placed in the state of Texas, forming one giant city with a population-density less than that of many existing cities, leaving the rest of the world empty.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    The Texas scenario is one most often used by any group that wants to try and make a point against population control. Factually, you likely can put a few billion people onto one space - if you want them all to live in their own sewage.

    Cramming all people into one area and then trying to survive is an experiment in mass suicide as soil erodes and the nutrients dissapear so that no food can be grown. Forget meat eaters - you can't feed both meat and humans in that area combined and sustain one another. Forget vegetation growth - food, heat, shelter would take up all the resources there so that it would be nothing more than a vast wasteland. Fresh water would evaporate. Disease from living in such close quarters would become rampant. The list goes on.

    Right now there is a shortage of food in N Africa. Lakes in the USA have dried up. Some lands are uninhabitable because they cannot sustain a human population. Global warming is a direct result of the population growth - more people simply require more resources to survive. Common sense.

    Overpopulation is when the number of people can not be permanently maintained without depleting resources and without degrading the environment and the people's standard of living. Because we are rapidly using up resources around the world, virtually all nations are overpopulated. This applies even more so to the rich nations. As we use up the resources, the earth's carrying capacity continues to decrease.

    Just like with people, an overpopulation of animals is not defined by the number of animals that could hypothetically fit within a specific area, but rather when the number of animals that occupy their habitat are not capable of behaving as they naturally would. Unfortunately, the animals' behavior is often altered not so much by their number, but by humans encroaching upon their habitat and then claiming the animal to be a nuisance to man. We should practice the saying "live and let live, " but we can not do this while our number continues to increase.

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