I've reached a turning point in my life

by B_Deserter 33 Replies latest jw experiences

  • B_Deserter
    B_Deserter

    Last May, I finally admitted to myself that I am an atheist. To me, being an atheist means that I don't believe any of the silly nonsense that puny humans have come up with. Many of the religions of man were started during a time when mental illnesses went undiagnosed and misunderstood, a time when man couldn't explain why lightning struck the earth or why rain fell. As I've thought and pondered over things these past months, I couldn't help but realize something when contemplating the beginning of the universe.

    The First Law of Thermodynamics states in layman's terms that matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Matter is merely a physical manifestation of energy. Such energy can be released such as in an atomic bomb. The matter is not destroyed, but converted into energy. There is one nagging question in all of this: where did the energy come from? Since it cannot be created, it must have always been here. But the fact that it has always been here flies in the face of what we know about cause and effect. Isaac Asimov's story "The Last Question" delves into the area that I'm contemplating. The end provides a possible explanation for the existence of the universe: The Cosmic AC, a vast computer so advanced that we cannot even comprehend it, finally figured out how to reverse entropy, and created another universe with a command "Let there be light." Now, obviously that's just a story but it is also an amazing concept. But, let me get back to the universe itself.

    The general theory of the beginning of the universe is that it sprang from a "big bang." Now, the universe might very well have arisen from such an explosion, and there is some evidence supporting that conclusion, but something had to be there to explode. My question is: where did THAT thing come from? Something had to have caused it. No matter what explanation anybody can come up with, it requires pre-existing elements in order to work. Since it is unreasonable to say that those elements spontaneously generated out of nothing, something had to have (pardon the term) created it. So then, you have a creator to explain, then you have the creator's creator to explain. It is an infinite loop that can go on for infinity. It was then I realized, there HAS to be something that started it all, an ultimate cause. The First Law of Thermodynamics cannot be correct, or rather, there must have been a time when it was not correct.

    I did some reading up on what philosophy would best fit with my feelings, and found none. Although, Deism came close. To get a few things straight:

    • I do not necessarily believe that this "creator" was an intelligent being, but it is just as possible a force of some kind
    • I do not believe that this creative force is concerned about the lives we live on earth or that it necessarily is even aware of us or even "alive"
    • I do not believe that this creative force needs prayer and worship from us
    • I still believe in the natural laws that govern our universe now, however I do not believe that these laws have always been in effect, as we have a universe full of energy whose existence defies those very laws.
    • I don't believe this creative force is directly responsible for life on earth, nor that it "guided" evolution.
    • I don't believe this creative force is some sort of cosmic "watch-winder" who set all the physical laws purposely for our benefit.
    Confused yet? I know I am. To sum it all up, I believe that the universe was created by something eternal. It wasn't a "God" or anything human beings can even comprehend. It probably wasn't even intelligent, but merely something that existed without a cause that was able to be the cause of the sum of all the energy in the universe (and possibly multiverse). I guess that makes me an Atheist Deist if you really want to classify me.
  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Congratulations on building your personal manifesto. I believe most people float through life never really thinking much about what they believe in why. In that sense, you are way ahead of most of the population.

  • Magick
    Magick

    which came first...the chicken or the egg?

    This is just one of life’s unanswered questions,

    just like why do men have nipples ?

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    Last May, I finally admitted to myself that I am an atheist.

    It took me 50 years to realize I have always been an Atheist...

  • knock knock
    knock knock

    ::::: It wasn't a "God" or anything human beings can even comprehend. :::::

    I'd say a good many human beings have been able to comprehend a great many extremely complex notions. The one thing that seems to be "incomprehensible" is "God". No one has really been able to peg that one yet. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    There is the possibility that the "stuff" of the Big Bang has always existed. While incomprehensible, to me at least, there isn't anything to rule it out as far as I know.

    I can't say I believe it (for lack of evidence), but I think it's a beautiful thought: The universe as we know it is just the latest one that formed from a big bang and will eventually collapse back on itself, only to bang again and create another one. The same blob of stuff, continually coming together, and blowing apart. Forever. (Amen) ;-)

    Dave

  • mentalclearness
    mentalclearness

    hmmm...deism is looking pretty good to me at the moment!!!

  • blueviceroy
    blueviceroy

    God isn't hiding from anyone ,we just look in all the wrong places,

    God isn't an active part of our reality. and God isn't what you think because God can't be conceptualized , "God" can only be experienced.

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    God isn't an active part of our reality

    And why is that. He is suppose to by omnipotent, he is said to have interacted directly with humans in the past why not now... A human race desperate to understand God's will trying to please him is it asking to much for a little HINT.......

  • blueviceroy
    blueviceroy

    A hint? Learn to be quiet inside and have no activity related to ones own self current in the mind , no selfish activity at all , only the desire to HEAR God or connect to god for the sole purpose of making the creator pleased ,

    When you can stop being so much a part of this world God will give you the hint you desire

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