I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

by Farkel 156 Replies latest jw friends

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  teejay

  Wow, Voice. May I call you Voice?

  You must've been lurking or sumpin', 'cause with only your third post, you've got the bold and the italics down pat -- it usually takes newbies a few more posts than that to figure out the 'html' on Simon's board. (actually, after a little research, I noticed that on your very first post, you knew. Impressive!!)

  Good that you would arrive at this particular time, as well, when there circles some question as to the integrity of certain members. Welcome, "newbie." We look forward to your further contributions, eh larc?

  Why don't you give Farkel a chance to prove himself one way or the other?

  Have you been lurking for long? if so, then you must surely know that I (and the rest of the board) HAVE given Sir Farkel several opportunities to clean up his act, but with little to show for it. Thus, my reluctance to buy into his latest spiel.

  You initially posted that you had a hard time believing Farkel's "epiphany," but it's quite obvious that you had already made up your mind as to his sincerity.

  No. no. that's not what I said. I simply said that I needed to see evidence. Surely you concur that words are only words, not to be confused with genuine acts.

  He has been through three terribly traumatic experiences in the space of a few months.

  Yes, yes, I know. He's repeatedly reminded the board of the travails that only he has endured over the past few months. On the other hand, the rest of us JW.com'ers have been living large on Alan's 320 foot yacht, with not a care in the world. As a matter of fact, several hundred of us got back from a world cruise with stops in Tahiti, Tokyeo, Rio, Mexico City (getting that boat upstream was a bitch), leaving Jamaica only Saturday. Yes, it's a pity that Farkel has been left to live life with it's ups and downs, unlike anyone else. Maybe Alan and his crew will be able to work Farkel in on the next trip.

  I don't have the bad history with him that you obviously do, so I have no reason to doubt his sincerity. But even if you do, is it kind or compassionate to make such an issue over it?

  Well, for one, Voice, I have no "bad history" with Farkel. I've just been paying attention to his antics. Secondly, if you don't doubt him, I have no problem with that. Third, by making an issue of it, I put Farkel on notice that he will be observed, and that his actions, within the confines of JW.com, will testify as to the veracity of his words, whether to his credit or otherwise. Either way, I have nothing to loose.

  It is your style to say exactly what you think, regardless (or because?) of how controversial it is, so if you want to express some trepidation, that's understandable--but it kinda seems like kicking a guy when he's down. After an initial "I'll believe it when I see it," wouldn't it have been best to sit back and let time tell?

  Yes, it is my style to speak my mind, regardless of which way the pc wind blows. And sit back and wait? Maybe.

  But what isn't quite so reasonable, and doesn't seem very fair, is that you made your opinion known, and now you appear to be stacking the deck against Farkel. Do you want to prove him wrong so badly that you'll hijack his thread, lobbing insults at him until he breaks and fights back? What will that prove? To be honest, teejay, while you may be trying to prove that "Farkel hasn't changed," you run the risk of giving the impression that you lack any compassion. and let time tell?

  Good point.

  But what isn't quite so reasonable, and doesn't seem very fair, is that you made your opinion known, and now you appear to be stacking the deck against Farkel. Do you want to prove him wrong so badly that you'll hijack his thread, lobbing insults at him until he breaks and fights back? What will that prove? To be honest, teejay, while you may be trying to prove that "Farkel hasn't changed," you run the risk of giving the impression that you lack any compassion.

  The error of your hypothesis, that I want to prove Farkel wrong, is obvious, of course, that if fairly screems. You see, Voice, only Farkel can prove Farkel wrong. As to whether I lack compassion, my record here, even among strangers, speaks for itself.

  We look forward to hearing more from you, Voice, and welcome.

  Peace,
  tj

  p.s. I think it's ginny.
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  Tina

  "I have given Sir farkel several opportunities to clean up his act......'

  Nutty Belief#3 for tj

  'People and things should turn out the way I want them too' AE

  Nobody has or needs to live up to YOUR expectations of what is 'right and acceptable'.....

  Jehovahs Witnesses,Proudly Serving Their Corporate Masters!
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  teejay

  Hello, Tina. Been reading long? Met the "newbie," yet? You should.
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  larc

  I like the newbie, VoR. He is a real nice person.
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  Prisca

  I like the newbie, VoR. He is a real nice person

  How do you know it's a he, larc?

  Do you who V of R is, or are you just presuming it's a male?
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  Mommie Dark

  "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep, it starts when you're always afraid, step out of line, The Man come and take you away"

  the scent of fear is palpable in here. It could be amusing if it weren't so damn predictable.
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  Prisca

  Not fear. Mistrust.
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  LoneWolf

  Wal, DannyBear & teejay, I've read your comments and can understand where you are coming from. That doesn't mean that I respect them.

  Yes, ol' Farkel has been downright nasty at times. People who go through stressful times have a tendency to do that. For you to trivialize those times and pretend that you somehow wouldn't do the same is laughable, not to mention contemptable. People who do that usually have little real experience in the world and/or have been insulated from its realities by shoving their share of it off on someone else.

  Those who have been through hell usually have a greater patience with things like that, if for no other reason that they know if they dump cold water on someone when they are trying to improve is to discourage them from trying again. Farkel's not perfect, I agree, but he has tried mightily to help out those that he can.

  You two remind me of the elders I wrote about in a letter to the Society some years ago. "They seem to think that it is their christian duty to dump buckets of water on any little spark of enthusiasm they find in order to determine whether or not they are real sparks."

  My initial impression of you is that you're a couple of little turds doing your best to grow up to be big shits. Perhaps I should require you to prove over a period of months or years that that is not the case? Grow up.

  Now before you start spouting nonsense in return, prove that you are for real, even as I am. Sign your real name.

  Tom Howell
  Alias: LoneWolf
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  teejay

  Hello, Tom.

  Your points are valid (as are mine), but I exercise my right to disagree with you. You have shown yourself to be a man of honor since your arrival, as far as I could tell, and my view of you remains unchanged. Hate to beat a dead horse, but your consistency of demeanor is the one thing I have not seen from Farkel.

  Thanks for your words. I mean that.

  Todd Jones
  Alias: teejay -- whose email box remains, as always, OPEN
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  Julie

  Hi Teejay,

  I am only giving you a few words as you are as big a waste of time as a few others I have wasted too much time with.

  :I've never taken lessons. But thanks for answering my post point-by-point, as I did yours.

  I have done so too many times only to have realized how hopeless trying to reason with you is. I cannot justify the waste of time it requires any longer, sorry. Though I will admit it is tempting to take a whack at you lame "essay" on Henry VIII. That must have been on inspiring Brittanica article you read boy!! Noticed only the crew found it worthy of kudos. No shock here.

  :No. I never said you had a problem. The words "you" and "problem" didn't exit my mouth, but perhaps they should have. What I said was, "I don't hold the ?Very High Moral Ground? and never said I did...

  Oh poor literalist, I will go a little slower for you then, here's what you Actually said:

  :You are the first person in memory to down me for not using swear words.

  "Down you"??? You think it is I who needs to brush up on reading comprehension? Here's what I Actually said:

  :You don't use swear words so you feel you have the Very High Moral Ground on certain issues. In reality though you guys hit below the belt, twist words to no end, many jump on one all the time, and you retreat in the most cowardly way from insults that you hurl as soon as you are called on them. Personally I will take a plain-spoken, honest, forthright sort of soul (evenif it means swear words) over your personal brand of Upright Communication anytime.

  Now, read carefully Teejay, do you see me criticizing you for *not* swearing? No, if you are able to comprehend you will notice I "down you" for your evil tactics and your view that because you don't swear you think you are more righteous or some other nonsense. Laughable.

  You said:
  :I’m sorry, but I learned a long time ago that you can tell anybody just about anything, if you know how, and I know how.

  You know how to twist words to fit your meaning and how to read into words what you like. I am sure you really Wow them in the hood.

  You said:

  :It’s nice to know that you will take a forthright cusser to one who refrains.

  Again, this comprehension problem you have, what I Actually said was:

  :Personally I will take a plain-spoken, honest, forthright sort of soul (even if it means swear words) over your personal brand of Upright Communication anytime.

  What this means, since it obviously was beyond your grasp, was I will take an honest, forthright person--even if they swear, over a cowardly, word-twisting, garbage spewing non-swearer. How much simpler can I make it for you Teejay? I mean I try not to use words that are too big or concepts that aren't too complex, I can't think of anything else.

  :As I said to you previously, you need a refresher course in reading comprehension.

  Ok Todd, why don't you go read another article and give us another "illuminating essay" (tongue in cheek here simpleton) on something that is totally irrelevant to everyone here?

  When I suggested you need to get out of the hood more often you replied:

  :Nah. If what I see around here, present company included, is representative of what I might expect to see outside of the hood, well... I prefer the hood. Thanks.

  Oh Teejay, I have absolutely no doubt you prefer the hood to any place in the world where there are people who are educated and can see through your nonsense. Easy to dazzle the dregs and that's why you could never move into other circles. You couldn't dazzle anyone else.

  That's all you get from me.

  Shelby,

  How are you? Any good messages from God/Jesus lately? Is he still telling you what to write on this board while there are atrocities going on everywhere? Hope all is well in spite of the delusions.

  Voice of Reason,

  Don't worry friend, *I* won't ruin my friend Farkel's thread, Teejay and his crew already have. Don't worry though, they are at least showing a little consistency here. This is what they do, it's why they are here. You'll get used to it. We pretty much have.

  Julie