Hi again greendawn,
"Hi again Chalam, in the end we seem to agree on everything and the really important issue of how in essence the JWs reject Jesus, as He said:
"unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you will not have eternal life." that is something the JWs do not do except a very small supposedly elite number of them."
Cool! Yes, they are concerned with their own brand of 'works' and getting into the 'Kingdom'. My JW friend said 'I hope I am doing enough to have my name in The Book Of Life'. As with all these works based salvation religious schemes, you never feel you are doing enough. This is my position.
Ephesians 1:13-15 (New International Version)
13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory.
So I am assured I have my guarantee already!
"As for the Jews I suppose you mean those that will eventually accept Jesus because at least all the religious Jews take guidance from the Talmud which is fiercely hostile to Jesus refering to him as the son of a whore (Mary) and a satanic sorcerer that is now burning in hell, such people clearly hate the Christ and will never be part of His kingdom. Not much change from the days of the Pharisee""
As I mentioned before, the Jews are God's chosen people but not all of them throughout history will be saved. Look at what happened to some when they were redeemed from Egypt?
This will explain it all plain and simple.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=65&chapter=8&version=31&context=chapter
JWs believe in a 'replacement theology' which is that the church (or in the JWs case, the 'congregation') have replaced Israel. However, this is another total falsehood. God is not a liar and the 144 000 will all be Jewish, 12 000 from each tribe like the Bible says.
Regards,
Stephen
144 000 blasted by the MATH (WT lying again)
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"of 27 006 now living, 39 804 are now dead. Therefore "borganize, borganize, borganize the Thing and its Thingdumb!!"
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Chalam
Hi again greendawn,
Cool.
I was reading this today and thought of this thread. Seems like it explains the position of the Jews and Gentiles in relation to God very well.
Ephesians 2 (New International Version)
Made Alive in Christ
1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. 4But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
One in Christ
11Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called "uncircumcised" by those who call themselves "the circumcision" (that done in the body by the hands of men)— 12remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
14For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
19Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
Regards,
Stephen -
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for a poster wanting figs 1975 to 1992
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STILLAJW_exelder -
This was a terrifyingly uncanny prediction, considering that this is EXACTLY what happened in the course of 2008 Koolaid editions of the Witchtower.
REMEMBER everybody - you saw it on this board first - before it was ever printed by WT babble and Trash Society.
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Stillanexjwelder's prophecy came true too -
they did exactly what he predicted over 1935 in the Witchtower.
This site is truly an oracle.
HB!!!!
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Maybe a lot of these "annointed ones" proved unfaithful and had to be replaced. Blame it on the epidemic of geriatric sexual promiscuity.
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