Blood

by Aleman 131 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Fatfreek
    Fatfreek

    I have a suspicion and a theory that Aleman is one of us simply posting under a different avatar. Bear with me for a moment and check out the following two definitions.

    1. shill: Audience member who is actually planted as part of the act and who acts in a cooperative manner.
    2. straw man: a weak or sham argument set up to be easily refuted

    Thinking as Aleman, in absence of a real and active JW -- I'll present arguments as if they were from a real active JW. I'll present them as weakly (or strongly) as most JW's present them, setting myself up as an easy target. Being such an easy target should attract like a magnet the best refutations that our JWD group has to offer. We love easy targets.

    As a result, lurkers will more frequently be exposed to weak JW positions as compared to the strong rebuttals that are offered here. I'd throw in the intentionally misspelled word or two in most sentences to emphasize how so many JW's lack the basic education that was forced on them by the Society.

    Thinking as Aleman, there may be better ways to do all this. That's okay but this is just one more way.

    Hey, I don't have a stitch of evidence to support this theory. If I were a skilled IT person with full access to the user database I'd be tempted, out of curiosity, to take his IP number and compare it with all others to see if there is a match. If I found a match, however, I probably wouldn't reveal it out of respect to the total anonymity that the users here expect.

    Of course, Aleman (or any others doing similar schemes) could thwart this by posting from some public library when using his shill identity.

    Just a theory.

    Len Miller

  • Aleman
    Aleman

    It is true that Jesus spoke about David in Mark 2:23-27, But was he speaking about the blood issue or are you taking it out of context and applying it to the subject of blood? He said it to the people that took the law and exagerated the law by saying that nothing can be done in Sabbath, but Jesus told them that things arn not as exagerated as they say they were. The thing here is that the main topic of this conversation was the Sabbath, not blood.

    -Aleman

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    Hey Aleman, how was meeting? Did you stay for the 15 minutes of fellowship? I slept in, had a late breakfast, and have had a great day without the Kingdum Hell.

    I find it interesting that for all these post full of info, your response was very short and on one subject. Do you need to go study up to find a response to the rest?

    Why don't you just go watch the football game? You won't win this battle soldier.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi aleman,
    mouthy has it-amen!

    These verses say it all.

    Leviticus 17:11 (New International Version)
    For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.

    John 6:53
    Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

    John 6:54
    Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Romans 3 (New International Version)

    Righteousness Through Faith

    21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through faith in his blood.

    So is your faith in the simple beliefs of the Bible or the teachings of the WTO?

    It is no coincidence that the JWs refuse the bread and wine which is symbolic of this faith. Also it is a command of Jesus for ALL believers (no mention in any bible of this being just for 144 000).

    All the best,
    Stephen

  • Aleman
    Aleman

    Jesus once said, "give Cesar what is to Cesar, but give God What is to God," right? I have no other choice than to follow what is instructed for me to do. I know that they use it for making weapons and stuff like that, but I do it anyways. If I don't, the Government will be looking for me, God would be disapointed at me and I would probably be shunned by the community where I live for not supporting this great government that I live in.

    Medicine has become very advanced to find solutions to many problems, including the blood issue. Perhaps you don't share these same thoughts about medicine, but it was the medical feild that gave these ideas to the JWs to consider so as to take advantage of any opportunity to cure and save more lives.

    -Aleman

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    Since you are so medically advanced, what do you think about the breast milk facts presented earlier? As a breastfeeding mother, something encouraged by the Society, I have been technically breaking the rules on blood transfusions every time I fed my 3 kids in the library of the Kingdom Hall.

  • Aleman
    Aleman

    So what's the point? The video has a kid with a little blood on the side of the mouth or mabey it was red baby food like beets or strawberry. SO WHAT! What was your point in this video?

    -Aleman

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hi Aleman,
    Thanks for your post. I found this interesting.

    "I have no other choice than to follow what is instructed for me to do."

    Doesn't sound anything like "Freedom In Christ", please read Galatians 5 here.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=55&chapter=5&version=31&context=chapter

    When you have The Spirit of God living inside you, He will show you how to live, not the rules and regulations of a religious body.

    Regards,
    Stephen

  • momzcrazy
    momzcrazy

    Isn't that a wonderful sensation Chalam? I have said that there is so much less yet so much more to salvation than we were taught as Witnesses.

  • Aleman
    Aleman

    OK Chalam, If this is your answer, Stop Paying Taxes! You say to be free then be free of taxes. After all this was the topic in which I said that. Some people just love to take words and twist them around to try hard to get attention.

    -Aleman

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