Newbies - Tell Us What You Dealing with - Getting out of the Witnesses

by flipper 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • Eliveleth
    Eliveleth

    Wildfell,

    I know the feeling. When I found out by reading the Kingdom Interlinear Translation the truth was that they had not "used one English word for each Greek word" I was very angry. This anger was what started me on the way out. I think it is one of the steps we have to take to heal. There is anger, sorrow, humiliation for being so stupid, and many other emtions that we go through. I was very angry that I had been a JW for almost 50 years and did not see the obvious. I was a great "studier", but only of JW publications. I did a lot of research in the Strongs Concordance, but it didn't hit me. I found that in order to really see the truth, you must ask for Holy Spirit. The minute I did that, my eyes began to see. Luke 11:11-13.

    Welcome to the group. I hope you will find kindred spirits here that will help you heal.

    Love and hugs,

    Velta

  • cognac
    cognac

    husband found out about this site...

    they make it impossible for me to leave. wish I could make my own decisions without having to lose just about everybody I know and love.

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    so sorry cognac. Hang in there.

  • cognac
    cognac

    Thanks... I feel so cornered...

    One good thing is I got to go out with Hypnotic the last night... Just got to talk about stuff. The bad thing is though, no matter what we do there is no an easy way out... I know I could fade and get away with it, however, it's like hiding the person that you are from every single person that you know and love... I hate that. I don't like having to hide my feelings as if I'm doing something wrong. It's like, they don't even know who I am. Every time I look at them I want to tell them that its wrong. Its like, if you don't agree with me, fine argue with it to me. But, this is no argument, you simple lose everyone. There is no reasoning, no arguing, nothing. Doesn't matter if I'm right or not, its a done deal.

  • calrisian
    calrisian

    I left over two years ago. I read about the UN ordeal in the news on the internet. That was the straw that broke the camels back. Since then, I have learned so much in the last two years about the bible and religion and the real history of the Watchtower. I am soaking up all kinds of info and learning to finally think for myself again. I don't trust organized religion! God Help Us All, those abused by the Watchtower. Cal

  • TheDoctor
    TheDoctor

    My story is a typical one I'm sure.... I was Raised in the "Truth", the teachings being drilled into my head from day 1. Now that I'm an adult i came to the realization that the only reason i was even hanging around was so that i wouldn't lose my friends and family. Growing up, Neither of my parents were "Strong" so to speak, (Of all in my family including siblings, my Father is the only one who is involved anymore) but WBTS teachings still controlled my life. No holidays, birthdays, friends outside the hall, extra schooling, sports etc. All my life ive had doubts, but to question things is to doubt god himself, so i always kept it to myself. I finished high school, got married way to young (Like many witnesses so that I could have sex), started working full time, and became severely depressed in the process. I sought therapy, and ended up on medication to help me deal with the anxiety that this brought about. After going through the motions for years i finally decided a year ago to make a change. I stopped going in the ministry first, because i felt it was hypocritical of me to try and convince others of something that i wasn't convinced of myself. I still went to meetings with my wife for about 6 months before stopping completely. I struggled for a very long time with the fact that i was going to lose my friends and family, and everything that was important to me. The way i look at it now though, is that if someone doesn't want to be my friend or love me unconditionally because i disagree with their religious viewpoint, then they didn't truly value their relationship with me anyway. Fortunately, i have a wife who is wholly supportive of me choosing for myself. She is still active and doesn't agree with the way i feel, but she doesn't try to guilt me into coming back either. Slowly, my "friends" have stopped calling me, and little by little i think the people that think i "Need a bible study" are backing off. So essentially, I'm starting my life over at this point. Im glad to say that I started going to school online and at night, something that was discouraged growing up. I feel better about life than i ever have, not having to worry that every small decision i make jeopardizes my relationship with god. I actually feel hopeful about the future for the first time in my life. Its lame that it took all this for it to happen though...

  • wildfell
    wildfell

    I was very angry. This anger was what started me on the way out. I think it is one of the steps we have to take to heal. There is anger, sorrow, humiliation for being so stupid, and many other emtions that we go through.

    Hi Velta - Anger can be a very good thing can't it? It can motivate us to take action when courage alone wouldn't be enough. The important thing I am wrestling with is not to remain angry with myself. I have to forgive myself. (even though I keep thinking "How did I believe so much CRAP!! for so many years? What was I thinking???")

    I have been going through the grieving process for some months now, and I try and remember a saying I know - "This too shall pass". I try and picture what my life will be like in years to come - a happy and free life! Actually, I already feel a lot happier than I ever did when I was a jw. The meetings used to depress me. The small talk before and after the meetings with false christians used to depress me. Selling literature door to door used to depress me. The endless demands and rules of men used to depress me. Now, I have a growing sense of freedom. It's so very gratifying to be a christian just following Bible guidelines, free of the shackles of men who tried to imprison me.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Welcome to wildfell.... Glad your aboard.
    TheDoctor. I read your post & was sorry to hear you were raised that way. But I was VERY HAPPY to read your wife is still with you & allowing you to think for your self. That is very unusual in JW marriage
    I had a support group for years & most that came women/men/ had lost their spouse once they announced they didnt want to follow the Organization. So your blessed to have a UNconditional loving wife. A Gift I would say. God Bless Her & of course you (HUGS

  • Eliveleth
    Eliveleth

    Hi Velta - Anger can be a very good thing can't it? It can motivate us to take action when courage alone wouldn't be enough. The important thing I am wrestling with is not to remain angry with myself. I have to forgive myself. (even though I keep thinking "How did I believe so much CRAP!! for so many years? What was I thinking???")

    I have been going through the grieving process for some months now, and I try and remember a saying I know - "This too shall pass". I try and picture what my life will be like in years to come - a happy and free life! Actually, I already feel a lot happier than I ever did when I was a jw. The meetings used to depress me. The small talk before and after the meetings with false christians used to depress me. Selling literature door to door used to depress me. The endless demands and rules of men used to depress me. Now, I have a growing sense of freedom. It's so very gratifying to be a christian just following Bible guidelines, free of the shackles of men who tried to imprison me.

    Anger is a good motivator, but it passes. When I was a witness, one of the things that I hated most was going from door to door. I got physically ill each time I forced myself to go. However, I thought that I was pleasing God when I did, so I did. I know that God received my "sacrifice".

    I got a phone call (anonymous) when we first left from someone who angrily said: "If this is not the truth, why did you stay so long?" I don't know the answer to that. But I do believe that God had a hand in it. Who knows what my life would have been like without Him, and since none of my family were church goers, I am sure I would not have even known God. I just thank Him for what He did for me and my family and is still doing.

    We went to church for about 15 years after we left the WTand were disillusioned by all the other "organized" religions as well. Now we just serve God every day. Live lives that His word shows us and let Him be Lord. We are happier than we ever were inside an organization. Life gets better and better when you let Jesus guide you. There is total freedom in Him.

    I just live my life each day, asking God to show me His will and then just do whatever shows up in my life. I trust Him to do what He promises, that if we "seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness" He will provide everything we need.

    Love and hugs,

    Velta

  • flipper
    flipper

    COGNIZANT- I'm proud to be an " apostate " as well ! Most ex-witnesses I've met really are much nicer than current JW's . I think being an ex-witness makes us all realize how mind controlled they really are on the inside still- and makes me feel sorry for them to an extent.

    WILDFELL- Welcome friend to the board ! It is an eye opener when we see the Watchtower society exposed for protecting pedophiles and what they are doing to victims and their families ! I too was like you when first finding out- made me mad as hell ! So don't feel alone Wildfell, we have all felt your anger as well towards the organization. I too missed opportunities being in the organization for 44 years, and now being out 4 years am having to re-invent my life somewhat . As you say just try to live a positive life now and make the most of your life - the best revenge as you stated. It will get easier for you in time , i promise. You will find that your anger will gradually turn into making you do proactive action helping others out of the cult.

    CHILD- Yeah ; I agree with you. You don't have to let the witnesses know what you are doing. It is none of their business. Don't have to allow them to control you anymore. Don't play their games. In time they will leave you alone !

    HILLBILLY- I agree with you. We can enjoy our freedom of thought and have a wide open culture available to us to use in gaining knowledge outside the witness cult .

    EVILETH- It is amazing when the scales fall from all of our eyes and we see how many years we wasted in the witness cult ! You had 50 years ? I had 44 years ! Wow! Almost a century between us - 100 years ! Gawd, I don't even want to think about it ! LOL! But I agree with you in time the anger does pass . I turned my anger into a positive energy to help others get out ! I'm glad you and your husband worship God on your own terms - not through organized religion ! Good for you !

    COGNAC- I'm sorry you are sad friend. It is true , that witnesses are , " cult mind controlled", and being trapped under the spell of " information control". They are only allowed to view things from the Watchtower societies angle . I'm glad Hypnotic is there for you. So are we here on the board if you ever need help my friend , you have my wife and my phone number- I PMed it to you the other day, call anytime !

    CALRISSIAN- Welcome to the board friend ! I too don't trust organized religion. I have learned a lot being out of the witnesses for 4 years. Keep learning and educating yourself friend ! Good luck, Peace.

    THE DOCTOR- Welcome to the board ! I am so glad that life is looking better for you friend ! It helps that your witness wife is supportive of you in your decision to stop. It's good the witnesses are backing off, not trying to have a Bible study with you. I also was raised a witness and have some family still inside it. Some shun me, some don't so it's a mixed bag of sorts. I hope your on-line education keeps working good for you friend ! Good luck.

    MOUTHY- I agree with you. It is good the Doctor has that support from his wife ! It really helps ! I'm glad you got support also Grace when you exited the witness cult ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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