My wife says "They miss you at the Hall"

by OnTheWayOut 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    As long as she won't see it as another frustrating play in a complex game that she's losing and therefore has to dig in her heels.

    She's very social, obviously... have you been able to think of other things that she might be interested in taking up (with you) to get her socialising with non-witnesses? Say, a sport (eg couples badminton) or a new hobby that you can share together? Maybe a big key for her will be replacing the social life, and finding her some real friends.

    As you know she'd be wary at first of making non-witness friends, but just a few months of taking up a new activity will broaden her mind a little. After a while you can introduce the idea of socialising with your new friends outside the bounds of the event, like going for drinks after the game, or inviting other couples over for dinner.

    You could probably use some new hobbies yourself, I'm guessing. Get out there and try some man. We get this tiny short gasp at life; start enjoying the days.

  • truthsearcher
    truthsearcher
    I am confident that my wife (by her actions, responses, etc.) is on the verge of
    opening her mind and rejecting the WTS.

    I know this must bring you great hope OTWO, and it is wonderful to hear! Hang in there, it will be worth the wait.

  • WT=watchtrouble
    WT=watchtrouble

    Don't they all say this.

  • esw1966
    esw1966

    I love the comments on this as well.

    I havn't gotten the we miss you yet and it's been two years. I finally talked to my dad on the phone after a year and a half and right away he started with, 'You've been a very bad boy...'

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle
    she will see their conditional love....

    That is the sad thing about the JWs - their ""love"" comes with a price tag.

    Big up for being a reasonable husband - it must be hard seeing your wife still go to meetings??

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    It is interesting how the Jw's try and 'balance' the rules with their conditional love isn't it?

    During my extended 'not Da'd yet, but fading hard' period, one of the bro's who was very good friend of mine for a very long time [like 20 years], finally showed up at my house after maybe 2 years. He would not actually come inside, but stood on my patio while telling me that 'we miss you at the hall'. That conversation went like this:

    Me: Hi Bill. Nice to see you.

    Bill: I just wanted to come by and let you know that we miss you at the hall.

    Me: You know Bill, that in the 2 years that I have been gone, only one elder ever bothered to show up here, and he was only here to invite me to the Memorial? No one else. Not a call or a knock. When my mom died, the whole damned congregation boycotted her funeral, as if she had died of the bubonic plague, or that I was infected with Aids or something.

    Bill just looked sheepish and mumbles something I can't recall.

    Bill: I am dying, and I wanted to make sure that before I go, that I made an effort to get you back to Jehovah.

    Note: Bill really was dying. He had Lupus and it had settled in his heart muscle. He told me that at the time we spoke his heart was only contracting about 25% what it should have been. He died a couple months later.

    Me: I am so sorry for your health issues. We have been very good friends for a very long time. On the matter of my return to the Kingdom Hall, I think you know that is not going to happen. I have tried to tell you the reasons before, but you won't hear them. It is not the 'truth' Bill, and I will not be able to pretend it is anymore.

    Bill: Jeff, the elders 'warned' me not to come here and speak with you - I told them that I would not eat a meal with you, or just fellowship, but that I wanted one last chance to help you see your folly.

    He was more concerned with eating or not with me in the final analysis. Though I had never met the Scriptural definition of one who had denied Christ, the reason for not 'eating with such a man', I had been judged and mentally executed by the brotherhood. The elders had done the behind the scenes work to assure that. This man and I had spent thousands of hours together, talking and preaching and working on projects - but his ultimate concern was that he kept a rule made by men.

    It was truly an epiphany in ways - a realization of just how conditional the love is that Jw's have for one another.

    Our visit ended with a hug and my assurance of love for him - I don't recall his reciprocation in that regard. I never saw him alive again. I was not welcome at his funeral [sales talk], so I didn't go.

    And this guy was perhaps the most genuine person in regards to interest in me after leaving. All the rest was talk, and no action at all.

    Jeff

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Jeff, that is a very sad story. It does verify my thoughts that usually only family
    members can put aside their problem with a "spiritually weak" person and continue
    to treat him as human, but even there some don't do it.

    I make this promise now. I care about many of you. If you all decide to go back
    to JW's, I won't shun you. If you are ethnically different from me, I won't shun you.
    If you become Christians or Buddists or anything else, I won't shun you. If you are
    jailed, I won't shun you.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Hounding at its finest. That is the way they have to manipulate you to go to the Kingdumb Hell where more serious hounding can begin. Best to not even show up.

  • Mary
    Mary

    My mother told me the exact same thing last week: "....people at the Hall were asking about you again...."

    Good lord----I guess I must have went away to prison or something because not one phonecall from anyone at the KH. I'm not DF'd or anything, but I may as well be.

    This is another guilt complex perpetrated by the Dubs to try and shame us into coming back into the fold "before the door closes!"

  • TweetieBird
    TweetieBird

    At the last hall I went to, I use to get that from 2 of my close friends when I would run into them in public. They would always say "we miss you!" One day one of them was going through a separation with her husband (a real piece of work and a brother in good standing) and needed some furniture. I happened to have a table and chairs that I was going to give her and she avoided me like the plague. I guess she must have thought it would be demon possessed.

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