Debunking the Reagan Myth

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  • nvrgnbk
    nvrgnbk

    Debunking the Reagan Myth

    Published: January 21, 2008

    Historical narratives matter. That’s why conservatives are still writing books denouncing F.D.R. and the New Deal; they understand that the way Americans perceive bygone eras, even eras from the seemingly distant past, affects politics today.

    And it’s also why the furor over Barack Obama’s praise for Ronald Reagan is not, as some think, overblown. The fact is that how we talk about the Reagan era still matters immensely for American politics.

    Bill Clinton knew that in 1991, when he began his presidential campaign. “The Reagan-Bush years,” he declared, “have exalted private gain over public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and fame over work and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess, and of neglect.”

    Contrast that with Mr. Obama’s recent statement, in an interview with a Nevada newspaper, that Reagan offered a “sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.”

    Maybe Mr. Obama was, as his supporters insist, simply praising Reagan’s political skills. (I think he was trying to curry favor with a conservative editorial board, which did in fact endorse him.) But where in his remarks was the clear declaration that Reaganomics failed?

    For it did fail. The Reagan economy was a one-hit wonder. Yes, there was a boom in the mid-1980s, as the economy recovered from a severe recession. But while the rich got much richer, there was little sustained economic improvement for most Americans. By the late 1980s, middle-class incomes were barely higher than they had been a decade before — and the poverty rate had actually risen.

    When the inevitable recession arrived, people felt betrayed — a sense of betrayal that Mr. Clinton was able to ride into the White House.

    Given that reality, what was Mr. Obama talking about? Some good things did eventually happen to the U.S. economy — but not on Reagan’s watch.

    For example, I’m not sure what “dynamism” means, but if it means productivity growth, there wasn’t any resurgence in the Reagan years. Eventually productivity did take off — but even the Bush administration’s own Council of Economic Advisers dates the beginning of that takeoff to 1995.

    Similarly, if a sense of entrepreneurship means having confidence in the talents of American business leaders, that didn’t happen in the 1980s, when all the business books seemed to have samurai warriors on their covers. Like productivity, American business prestige didn’t stage a comeback until the mid-1990s, when the U.S. began to reassert its technological and economic leadership.

    I understand why conservatives want to rewrite history and pretend that these good things happened while a Republican was in office — or claim, implausibly, that the 1981 Reagan tax cut somehow deserves credit for positive economic developments that didn’t happen until 14 or more years had passed. (Does Richard Nixon get credit for “Morning in America”?)

    But why would a self-proclaimed progressive say anything that lends credibility to this rewriting of history — particularly right now, when Reaganomics has just failed all over again?

    Like Ronald Reagan, President Bush began his term in office with big tax cuts for the rich and promises that the benefits would trickle down to the middle class. Like Reagan, he also began his term with an economic slump, then claimed that the recovery from that slump proved the success of his policies.

    And like Reaganomics — but more quickly — Bushonomics has ended in grief. The public mood today is as grim as it was in 1992. Wages are lagging behind inflation. Employment growth in the Bush years has been pathetic compared with job creation in the Clinton era. Even if we don’t have a formal recession — and the odds now are that we will — the optimism of the 1990s has evaporated.

    This is, in short, a time when progressives ought to be driving home the idea that the right’s ideas don’t work, and never have.

    It’s not just a matter of what happens in the next election. Mr. Clinton won his elections, but — as Mr. Obama correctly pointed out — he didn’t change America’s trajectory the way Reagan did. Why?

    Well, I’d say that the great failure of the Clinton administration — more important even than its failure to achieve health care reform, though the two failures were closely related — was the fact that it didn’t change the narrative, a fact demonstrated by the way Republicans are still claiming to be the next Ronald Reagan.

    Now progressives have been granted a second chance to argue that Reaganism is fundamentally wrong: once again, the vast majority of Americans think that the country is on the wrong track. But they won’t be able to make that argument if their political leaders, whatever they meant to convey, seem to be saying that Reagan had it right.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/opinion/21krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident

    Hmmm.. "Debunking the Reagan Myth" versus "debunking the Eryn myth". Sorry, NVR, no contest, but good on you for giving it the old college try!

    Cog

    ps: I will read this, just as soon as I can drag myself away from "as the stomach turns". lol.

  • emy the infidel
    emy the infidel

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  • Tara
    Tara

    LOL at Cog.

    I read it, Nvr. It was an interesting read.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Thank God I was hipped to the Reagan myth while he was still in office. I was a faithful dub, but I watched what he was doing and learned the difference in the two parties. I have problems with both parties. But I must admit I have a bigger problem with what the Republican party has become, and we can thank Reagan for a lot of what it has become: "cold hearted" to the weakest and most vulnerable of America's citizens. Bush/Rove further turned it into the opium for the simple minded fundies. I can't stand Reagan. No Reagan worhsip here and never has there been.

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident
    For example, I’m not sure what “dynamism” means, but if it means productivity growth, there wasn’t any resurgence in the Reagan years. Eventually productivity did take off — but even the Bush administration’s own Council of Economic Advisers dates the beginning of that takeoff to 1995.

    "Dynamism" means a force or energy for change, although the change does not necessarily have to be a beneficial one. In the mouths of politicians, it is nothing more than a buzz word which means, "are you sick of the way things are right now, then vote for change, vote for ME!" Unfortunately, that's about as much thought as many seem to put into their votes.

    The forces that work on macroeconomics are many and varied and a tiny change in market forces in one sector often has wide reaching effects across the national economy that do not become fully apparent until many years later. Reagan and Bush would not be the first politicians to take credit for positive changes that have nothing to do with them or their fiscal policies. You can be sure when a democratic government is elected next term and has to deal with the fiscal fallout of "Bushanomics" that the neo-cons will be trying to lay the blame on their doorstep as well.

    Cog

  • Burger Time
    Burger Time

    Reagan what a joke. I guess Obama forgot Reagan only won the presidential nominee because of a racist fellow from NC by the name of Jesse Helms. Later Helms and Reagan became enemies, but still he was pandering to Jesse big time! This was when Jesse was at his dirtiest too. So anyone who does that automatically looses all respect from me. Let alone Ronald used "trickle down" economy which clearly does not work.

  • worldtraveller
    worldtraveller

    Reagan did keep religion at arms length. I will give him credit for that, but he was just a figurehead for the advance of trickle down economics.

    He was better as a politician than an actor. The monkey was a better actor.

  • RollerDave
    RollerDave

    Historical revisionism amuses me.

    So now Krugman, a hack if there ever was one, takes another stab at the Gipper. Predictable.

    A while back, weren't the libs trying to say that Reagan didn't defeat the USSR, but that it was Carter and all his humanitarian work since washing out as president?

    Facts are facts, the eighties saw such a boom in our economy, such an increase in our prestige, and it felt good to be American again and it took two full terms of Bill Clinton to wreck it.

    I think the myth that needs debunking is that we conservatives are 'cold hearted' for wanting folks to be responsible for themselves if at all possible and that the Libs are somehow 'compassionate' for keeping people dependant on the REAL opiate that is deluding the masses; government largess stole from one segment of the populace to buy the support of another segment.

    How is it compassionate to focus on the minutest difference as the politically correct and phony diversity crowd do?

    How is it compassionate to tell people that there is no hope in America for the lower classes as the socialistic class warfare people do?

    I'm sure all you libs are nice people and mean well, but your ideas are a cancer on our society and make me seriously ill.

    If you want to debunk a myth, start with your own foolish, cynical, and delusional bull-puckey.

    RD

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    Since Reagan all of the US presidents have endorsed and favored exporting the jobs of the American workers off our soil, which has lead us to where we are today.

    1960 wages, 2008 prices = 3rd world country with computers. Hi- tech rednecks.

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