Hello NewEyes,
Hope you stay around, many different viewpoints. I understand your poem, it was mine also. Thanks for posting it.
waiting
by Nathan Natas 44 Replies latest jw friends
Hello NewEyes,
Hope you stay around, many different viewpoints. I understand your poem, it was mine also. Thanks for posting it.
waiting
ashitaka:
You wrote
Jesus, that makes me really sickI think it made her really sick too
Howdy lauralisa,
I e-mailed you, and was going to ask some questions, but thought I'd ask some of them here.
May I ask your background? Obviously, you're quite articulate and knowledgeable with your subject matter. You know/know about more professional persons and court cases than I do. But, you seem to know them "well."
I'm a victim/survivor. LOL - someone "who lived to tell the tale." May I ask your connection?
You're very interesting to talk with - thanks for the opportunity.
waiting
Judith wrote:
The woman I spoke with said that her husband (A JW) took the children but the other witnesses did not have knowledge of this. This woman took her children to counceling and they talked of more things that their father had done to them which sent her to a mental hospital for months. She got a divorce after the hospital stay and he was denied visitation with the children. She told me that she left the Kingdom Hall but didn't tell me if she had said anything to the elders.A lot of people got on that bandwagon Judith and certain counsellors were promoting it as were many books .... They would also claim they were Multiple Personality Disorders or something like it.
Unfortunately, no matter how much proof you give these people they will believe wha they want to believe =----- just like JW's <G>
JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
Personal Webpage: http://uq.net.au/~zzjgroen/
Silent Lambs wrote
When I heard the first claim I of course discounted it as being false or from someone who was mentally disturbed. But then I got another story and then another. It has began to be a very distrubing picture. All these people live with absolute terror of the WT organization. I have had reports from twelve different major metropolitian areas across the USA. Of particuliar interest is the similiar things described from people who do not know each other. Things like animal sacrifice, child sacrifice, CO's and DO's in charge along with prominent elders, video taping of child molestation, specific rituals that lead up to the abuse, groups of children being involved, the gatherings were often called called family studies for a cover, threats of death if ever told to the outside. These are just of few of commonalities between the stories I have heard. These people have acute memories of times dates and places including names which I have verified were in specifc congregations. It is very disturbing to say the least.
Silentlambs, stay skeptical please. When you really investigate what they are saying, it is all what has appeared in movies and books.
Many who once believed this are now coming to their senses and like people who claimed to be UFO abductees, admitting that this was confabulations of their minds .... The same counselling and books that "help" these people "remember" the satanic ritual abuse also helps them "remember" their ufo abductions and other wierd and wonderful things.
Stay skeptical and you will stay sane!
I have a lot of info on my website and there is some really great info on these other sites as well.
http://caic.org.au/zfms-sra.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/mind_cnt.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_none.htm
http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Mind-Control/General/ftv1n6.txt
http://www.religioustolerance.org/urbanft.htm
http://www.apsac.org/pasatan.html
http://mentalhealth.about.com/library/blsatan2.htm
http://www.satanservice.org/archive/delusion/sraocrt.html
http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/USG_SRA.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7530/rants/mythsat.html
http://mentalhealth.about.com/library/blsatan3.htm
http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~rwynar/Therapy.html
http://www.fmsfonline.org/mpdsra.html
http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_1_2.htm
http://www.fmsfonline.org/satanic.html
http://www.paganculture.com/crimes.htm
http://www.americanatheist.org/win96-7/T2/chupacabras.html
JanG
CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
Personal Webpage: http://uq.net.au/~zzjgroen/