And how about this one? More proof of God's love? Hey, it's a good thing hell doesn't exist, cause people suffer there. This looks like a good deal though, right?
right.
For those who accept the "mark"
by Yadirf 54 Replies latest jw friends
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Fredhall
Hey All,
God is showing his love right now. He want all of us to repent.
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VeniceIT
MARK??? Mark who??? is he single???
Ven
"Injustice will continue until those who are not affected by it are as outraged as those who are."
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mike047
Mindfield, No that is not yadirf.
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Yadirf
VeniceIT
Would you believe me if I told you
that my real name is "Mark"?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wannahelp
I find it interesting that the
Turning that back on you, I say this: I find
JW's don't believe in hell, because god
couldn't be that cruel, yet they believe
in the big bloodbath of Armageddon..
it interesting that Christendom don't believe
in this type of Armageddon, because they can't
imagine such an act of God, yet they believe in
hell ... supposedly a place where God everlastingly
cooks the souls of all who didn't make it to heaven.
The fact is, is that Armageddon is only somewhat a
duplication of the Flood ... a cleansing act. It's
hilarious that Christendom can accept the one but
can't stomach the other.Can you explain this scripture to me please..
What's there really to explain? Perhaps you might want
I'm confused by it when taking your above statements
in contrast to it..Hebrews 9:27 (NIV Version)
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that
to face judgment
to make yourself more clear by stating the problem ...
where do you think there is an inconsistency?Dubla
interesting that you continue to post new
Jump back into your britches, will you! I've said
proclamations/warnings, all the while ignoring
the many questions posed to you in response to
your past spoutings. perhaps your style would be
better fitted to life of street shouting. im sure
youve seen these people, standing on street corners,
shouting scriptures, screaming gloom and doom to all
the passers by.........youd actually probably reach
more of the robots youre looking for with this tactic
as well.
nothing whatsoever about having concluded my share
in the other thread. However, with the disposition
you've demonstrated here in THIS thread, why should
it surprise anyone if YOU don't hear any more from
me with regards to the comments you made in the other
thread, which you refer to? Since because you were
similarly that way too in the other thread, I really
wonder if you have the capabilities to participate
in a discussion without showing the mannerisms which
you've exhibited here. Is your middle name “Nasty by
any chance?Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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wannahelp
I find it interesting that the
JW's don't believe in hell, because god
couldn't be that cruel, yet they believe
in the big bloodbath of Armageddon..Turning that back on you, I say this: I find
it interesting that Christendom don't believe
in this type of Armageddon, because they can't
imagine such an act of God, yet they believe in
hell ... supposedly a place where God everlastingly
cooks the souls of all who didn't make it to heaven.
The fact is, is that Armageddon is only somewhat a
duplication of the Flood ... a cleansing act. It's
hilarious that Christendom can accept the one but
can't stomach the other.Well, didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?
Oh, and for the record, I personally do not believe in Hell, but then again, I don't believe you goto sleep when you die, either...
But, I digress... This whole topic was started by you, meaning that you are trying to make a point.. So, make your point without questioning others.. The onus is on you to prove your point, not deflect honest questions to your point by redirecting the questioning to me...
Can you explain this scripture to me please..
Hebrews 9:27 states that everyone is going to die once, and then be judged..
I'm confused by it when taking your above statements
in contrast to it..Hebrews 9:27 (NIV Version)
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that
to face judgmentWhat's there really to explain? Perhaps you might want
to make yourself more clear by stating the problem ...
where do you think there is an inconsistency?You stated that
"The irony
of it, is that if they instead were to make the
proper choice THEN they would be privileged to be
among those of that day who won't EVER have to
taste death at all "How can all men be destined to die once and then be judged and at the same time have an opportunity to NEVER taste death?
Your statement is not in harmony with Hebrews 9:27.
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Yadirf
Wannahelp
So, make your point without questioning others.. The onus is on you to prove your point, not deflect honest questions to your point by redirecting the questioning to me...
My, now aren’t you the little dictator of sorts! Now you’re gonna tell me what I can and can’t say. So I have to stay inside the narrow guidelines that YOU specify, huh? If you have such a dislike for the way I frame my comments, then you’re welcome to exit this thread … afterall it’s one that I authored and no one twisted your arm to enter here did they. I believe your real colors are beginning to shine through quite clearly now. So much for that “Peace to you” crap that you spouted in the other thread, eh?1)Well, didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?
I’ll bet you’d really like to learn of my answers for both of those, wouldn’t you? Simple questions, simple answers! (I continue to be amazed as to the inability of peoples who are educated by Christendom’s churches in being able to overcome the simplest of hurdles when it comes to seemingly contradictory things such as you bring up here.) Well, you would’ve gotten it had you deserved it. But THIS, plus at least two other comments of yours (spoken to others in reference to our exchanges, in separate threads) tells me that I’ve been trying to correspond with someone who isn’t worthy of a Christian’s time. Sorry, Wannahelp (ha!, whatta name) that you turned out to be that way, I was looking forward to going into some depth regarding the subject we were considering in the other thread. Now, though, I see that I would be throwing what is holy to a “dog” (a person incapable of appreciating sacred things). No thanks. Conversation ended!2)How can all men be destined to die once and then be judged and at the same time have an opportunity to NEVER taste death? Your statement is not in harmony with Hebrews 9:27.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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wannahelp
So, make your point without questioning others.. The onus is on you to prove your point, not deflect honest questions to your point by redirecting the questioning to me...
My, now aren’t you the little dictator of sorts! Now you’re gonna tell me what I can and can’t say. So I have to stay inside the narrow guidelines that YOU specify, huh? If you have such a dislike for the way I frame my comments, then you’re welcome to exit this thread … afterall it’s one that I authored and no one twisted your arm to enter here did they. I believe your real colors are beginning to shine through quite clearly now. So much for that “Peace to you” crap that you spouted in the other thread, eh?
My real colors are one of asking for and expecting to get answers to honest questions that I have asked.. I'm sorry if I don't play the witness game of "I don't like this question, so I'll deflect it" stuff.didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?
Actually, by your not answering the questions, you have just proven to me (along with the other 3 witnesses that I have asked this question of, and never received a satisfactory answer) that the witnesses do not have an answer to this question. Your lack of an answer is an answer. Thank you for your time, sorry to expose a hole in your "truth", but I'm sure you can reason that away and patch it up..
2)How can all men be destined to die once and then be judged and at the same time have an opportunity to NEVER taste death? Your statement is not in harmony with Hebrews 9:27.I’ll bet you’d really like to learn of my answers for both of those, wouldn’t you? Simple questions, simple answers! (I continue to be amazed as to the inability of peoples who are educated by Christendom’s churches in being able to overcome the simplest of hurdles when it comes to seemingly contradictory things such as you bring up here.) Well, you would’ve gotten it had you deserved it. But THIS, plus at least two other comments of yours (spoken to others in reference to our exchanges, in separate threads) tells me that I’ve been trying to correspond with someone who isn’t worthy of a Christian’s time. Sorry, Wannahelp (ha!, whatta name) that you turned out to be that way, I was looking forward to going into some depth regarding the subject we were considering in the other thread. Now, though, I see that I would be throwing what is holy to a “dog” (a person incapable of appreciating sacred things). No thanks. Conversation ended!
Peace be with you (Yeah, I practice real love, unlike the witnesses, and sincerely wish you peace)..
- Wannahelp
P.S. Just for the record you also avoided the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" questions, once again proving to me that you don't have answers to that line of reasoning, either.. That's two cracks in your 'wall'.. But, alas, I am quite sure you can patch them up and go on believing you live emersed in "TRUTH"... Good luck my friend.
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Yadirf
Wannahelp
Look you dumb cluck, it's quite apparent that if you don't get everything your way, because the other person won't give into to your tantrums, then that person definitely just didn't have the answers. You are as absurd as they come. You had a mission of proving me wrong from the beginning, and that's ALL. You did not turn a hearing ear towards anything I said. Rather than converse, you merely wanted to fight … saying that I attempted to sidestep a question by way of presening you with a question. THAT I never did. Go back and re-read it if you doubt that. I approached your questions as if they were coming from a sincere inquirer, not someone that had an AGENDA. Your screen-name certainly fits, really a dead give a way. In other words, you already had your mind made up on everything from the beginning, rather than simply approaching it with an open mind. If it WAS there for the learning, how do you suppose that YOU would ever be able to learn anything new if you're already convinced that you know it all from the start and you're unwilling to consider another point of view. That's something that you would charge JWs with, but I see it clearly in you.
P.S. Just for the record you also avoided the "ABSOLUTE TRUTH" questions, once again proving to me that you don't have answers to that line of reasoning, either.. That's two cracks in your 'wall'.. But, alas, I am quite sure you can patch them up and go on believing you live emersed in "TRUTH"... Good luck my friend.
You’re a pompous one, aren’t you. I didn’t avoid anything. You put an end to our exchanges due to a high and mighty attitude you've displayed here in this thread -- in addition to certain uncalled-for, unkind remarks that you made in two other threads. Yes, you might have yourself brainwashed into thinking that we JWs “don’t have answers to that line of reasoning”, as well as a wheel barrow full of your friends here at JW.com … but the fact remains that you will never hear MY other answer because of the unchristian way that you’ve conducted yourself here today -- and without regrets at that. And you’ve demonstrated very well how unfair a person that you really are, in that you caused the closure of this discussion by the attitude you displayed, and then attempt to say that because I no longer plan to cater to your rudeness that it’s I that 'just don’t have the answers'. You silly fool, who do you think, that has any thinking ability to begin with, can’t see through a shenanigan such as you're trying to pull here? Don't forget, your friends who post here at JW.com aren't the ONLY ones that are observing your actions. And if you want to know the truth about it, it's not mainly for the benefit of those who post here that I posted this thread to begin with. I owe Simon a word of thanks for allowing me, by the use of his board, the avenue to reach multitudes whom I hope can "hear" with unbiased ears.For the benefit of some lurker that may be looking in on this, I will supply the answer to one of the two questions that you posed, but not for YOU, Wannahelp. So, you may as well not even respond because I won’t answer you.
1)Well, didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again? So, are you now suggesting that god said he wouldn't kill people by the way of a flood, but that he will use some other method for the next round of destruction?
That’s perfectly correct. Simple answer for it, even as I earlier said it was. All one has to do is review the account of the Flood in the book of Genesis. Doing that, one will find that Jehovah stated that he would never again bring ALL flesh to ruin. (Genesis 9:11-16) Of course the Flood DID bring all flesh to ruin, ANIMALS and all, except those comparatively few that were aboard the Ark. Yes, at that time Jehovah brought even the lives of the animal kingdom to ruin. But not so though in the case of Armageddon. At Armageddon only people who have accepted the “mark” will be the focus of God’s wrath. Obviously, the animals do not have that capability. So your question, “didn't god state that he would never cause a flood again?,” is somewhat distracting from the real issue. In effect you were arguing that if that were true then it would be inconsistent for JWs to claim that God plans to do a similar thing at Armageddon. But the point of God’s promise in Genesis was that he never again would ‘cut off all flesh’, such as happened in the Flood. So God isn’t inconsistent with his words there in Genesis by bringing about Armageddon.So, that’s it, between me and you Mr. Wannahelp. Unless you can see fit to change your attitude there won’t be anymore sessions between you and I.
Yadirf
Daniel 11:35 ... a prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.
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zerubberballz
Don't worry about the ginger-haired animal SirFred,
Cats get 9 resurections (even if they fall down Jehovah's big crack ;)
unclebruce who still has nuth'n to repent for :(