For those who accept the "mark" (page 5)

Yadirf

Toddie Pottie

my question was with all this talk about the billions of non believers dying at armageddon,how will they die precisely?

So, what you're really wanting to know is PRECISELY how YOU will die if you happen to still be living in that day and be stupid enough to accept the "mark". Right?

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Chuckyboy

I also want to die peacefully in my sleep.... Certainly not screaming in terror....

But we don't always get what we "want", Chuckyboy. You know that from childhood.

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Farkel Darkel (my most respected apostate)

: A terrible, unhappy picture?
: Yes it is, but nevertheless biblical.
Of course it makes sense. "Biblical" inevitably follows from "terrible" and "unhappy."

No, Farkel Darkel, the foolishly refusing to recognize God's rightful place among his creation is what leads to unhappiness and all sorts of terrible things such as those mankind has had to endure. That which is truly Biblical leads to the fulfillment of all that makes man truly happy.

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TR (short for "troubled one")

When ya going back to the KH, Yadirf?

Sometime within my lifetime, I hope. First in order though is the fulfillment of Daniel 11:35. That's what everyone better be watching for, if they're wise. How about me driving by to pick you up, and you can go with me, after you've seen the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy? Will you be able to recognize it's fulfillment when it happens?

Yadirf

Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

TR

Sometime within my lifetime, I hope

Yeah, right. Thought you'd say something extremely vague like that.

I bet that you think if you were an active JW right now, you might be afraid to be "cleansed" or "purged" out of the org. according to the scripture in Daniel 11:35, right? The crap you look forward to ain't gonna happen. It just shain't gonna happen. Amazing that you think that scripture would apply to a few years during your existance. Come on, get real.

TR

I'm gonna make mince meat outta that Osama!

Yadirf

Dear Troubled TR

I bet that you think if you were an active JW right now, you might be afraid to be "cleansed" or "purged" out of the org. according to the scripture in Daniel 11:35, right?

Daniel 11:35 isn't about people themselves being purged out of the Organization, TR. It's about misimpressions of what the Bible teaches being rooted out and being replaced with what is accurate. Your memory of the Society's perception of that scripture and what I know it to mean are two different things. Try to keep them separated in our future discussions, TR. [8>]

The crap you look forward to ain't gonna happen. It just shain't gonna happen. Amazing that you think that scripture would apply to a few years during your existance. Come on, get real.

I'm not saying that Daniel 11:35 has to be fulfilled within MY lifespan, but of course I hope that it will be though. You asked me, did you not, what prevents me from going back to the meetings? I answered by saying that certain refinements have to take place first, refinements referred to in THAT text. That text is obviously speaking of things of a major sort. The 1914 doctrine is of that rating, of course.

Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

TR

Nice try, Yadirf. I ain't buyin' your bogus explanations. Nice to have an excuse for not going to the meetings, though. Gives you lots of time to be "worldly".

TR

I'm gonna make mince meat outta that Osama!

radar

Friday

You said: "as I said above it is very heartening for animal lovers to know that God’s justified anger won’t be directed at and include the animal kingdom."

So then, God's promise was really directed at Animal lovers?
This seema strange considering the first thing God allowed Noah after the flood was to slaughter animals for food! In fact God demanded the slaughter of millions of animals in his blood lust of sacrifices.

You said "The point is that God IS going to act quite similarly to the way he did at the Flood, especially with regards to us Humans"

Again what was the point of the rainbow?

You said "Insofar as you claiming that the Flood was an “Over kill”, you’re also the one who thinks that God is unjust for bringing about Armageddon for the sake of cleansing the earth of all that is damaging."

The flood was an overkill!!!
If George Bush dropped a hundred atom bombs in the Middle East, killing nearly all life forms, in an act to eradicate Bin Laden, would you consider this an act of wisdom?
Well you are saying your God acted like this.
Actually in your foolishness, you carry on the error that Religion as done for milleniums. In an effort to justify a book of stories and a religious system you in effect dishonour God, by your preachings

You said....oh never mind, go back to your delusions.

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

toddy

Yes Yardif Shmardif,how am i going to precisely die on this eventfull day?
i should still be around as it's pretty close now hey!

Farkel

Yadirf,

: No, Farkel Darkel, the foolishly refusing to recognize God's rightful place among his creation is what leads to unhappiness and all sorts of terrible things such as those mankind has had to endure.

What "rightful place" would that be, besides "boss?"

: That which is truly Biblical leads to the fulfillment of all that makes man truly happy.

Well, please enlighten me and others! I've been looking for that answer for half-a-century! The closest I came to that was this girl I met in New Orleans, see, and she did this incredible thing with me see, and then she.......oh, nevermind!

Farkel

"I didn't mean what I meant."

Yadirf

Toddy Potty

Yes Yardif Shmardif,how am i going to precisely die on this eventfull day?

Why are you so insistent upon dying at Armageddon, Toddy? Are you SURE that you even will? For example, do you even know what you will have to do in order to be marked for removal? Even if you do, how do you know how you will react to the pressure to conform to the demands of the World Government in that day? Do you know even NOW that you would place God in second place by elevating that government's authority above his? Are you aware that that's how one receives the "mark" in the first place? If you ALREADY know that you would thus commit idolatry then you will indeed pay for it with your life, but not necessarily your eternal life.

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TR

Nice to have an excuse for not going to the meetings, though. Gives you lots of time to be "worldly".

Worldly? If I wanted to be "worldly", TR, I'd have gotten myself a Christmas Tree with all the trimmings ... with a little Satanic "star" for the top ... now wouldn't I have?

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Keflar

What "rightful place" would that be, besides "boss?"

Somebody has to be the "boss", why not the Creator?

: That which is truly Biblical leads to the fulfillment of all that makes man truly happy.
Well, please enlighten me and others! I've been looking for that answer for half-a-century! The closest I came to that was this girl I met in New Orleans, see, and she did this incredible thing with me see, and then she.......oh, nevermind!

A wife is a "truly Biblical" thing, Farkel. Now see, you've done gone and discovered that the Bible leads to the fulfillment of what makes a man truly happy.

Yadrifter

Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

TR

Worldly? If I wanted to be "worldly", TR, I'd have gotten myself a Christmas Tree with all the trimmings ... with a little Satanic "star" for the top ... now wouldn't I have?

EEEEEWWWW! Good comeback! Now, your only problem is explaining why the tree and the star is "worldly". What, pray tell, DO you do with all that free time of yours? Let's see, you're retired, not going to meetings, not going out in field service... What DO you do with yourself, Yadon'tgotomeetings? Sit around waiting for Daniel 11:35 to come to pass? LOL!

TR

I'm gonna make mince meat outta that Osama!

Yadirf

TR-o-u-b-l-e

:Now, your only problem is explaining why the tree and the star is "worldly".

Rather than being avowed Christians the majority of those who celebrate Christmas are "worldly", aren't they? If that be the case then it's a "worldly" celebration via popular practice.

:What, pray tell, DO you do with all that free time of yours? Let's see, you're retired, not going to meetings, not going out in field service... What DO you do with yourself, Yadon'tgotomeetings? Sit around waiting for Daniel 11:35 to come to pass? LOL!

Not entirely, TR. Some of my time I spend on the Internet tormenting souls such as you. LOL.

Daniel 11:35 ... a KEY prophecy that must be fulfilled before the "time of the end" gets underway.

For those who accept the "mark"

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