MY LETTER of disassociation from JWD

by journey-on 49 Replies latest jw friends

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  hillary_step

  Thanks for being a patriot...regardless of who you voted for!

  HS
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  Hope4Others

  You will carry on. Others will come on board and the number of your posters will still look good, and all of you will continue to give your talks and associate with each other. But, remember, the ones you disfellowshipped are real people….people who found this place and made it a part their life because they thought they found a group of diverse, open-minded, interesting people they could banter with.

  So, not that anybody cares, but as of today, consider the above post "My Letter of Dissassociation from JWD."

  It is with great sadness to read this post, you have given so much to this board and I truly enjoy your posts. I too felt so discouraged by last week and felt as you somehow

  I hoped things would blow over and everything would work out. Perhaps the hurt feelings become too enormous to leave behind. You will be missed if this is your

  decision but I hope you don't. You are and inspiration and a positive person, I do admire your qualities.

  hope4others
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  Sparkplug

  "You will carry on. Others will come on board and the number of your posters will still look good, and all of you will continue to give your talks and associate with each other. But, remember, the ones you disfellowshipped are real people….people who found this place and made it a part their life because they thought they found a group of diverse, open-minded, interesting people they could banter with"

  journey~on~ You know a lot of us associate with ones that are not on the board for now outside of JWD. There are other forms of communication other than this forum. Email, phone, Fest...etc. And well yeah, sometimes it sucks, but I have been a risk of having duct tape slapped on my mouth a few times. It did not stop me from living in 'real' life and visiting with the friends I made. You know? Heck, I have even seen kicked off ones make up and come back. You never know. Life evolves all the time and so do circumstances. Just a thought.

  Things added by some of those people gone are still here and helping others and well, invaluable. I think a lot of people have maybe gone through what you are feeling. But if we all pack up our toys and go home. Who gets help?

  Maybe find a LASTING solution before the problem? Or an amendment? I don't know. But we all miss some posters, and many keep in close contact with several. I agree with Seeker4's comment. And add...did you ask Simon? Maybe taking a stand without posing a problem and waiting for a response, is presenting a problem and not letting and answer be reached. Maybe I am off...but maybe you should talk with the powers that be?
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  Lady Lee

  All of that to say

  The owner of this board has done the same thing to some of "my friends" whom I enjoyed associating with in this cyber room called JWD. They have been disfellowshipped…..kicked to the curb….labeled "Not of Our Kind". Before writing this, I went back and looked at his posts that got him and others disfellowshipped. I took a look at the last ten topics he started, and all I can say, is you lost one of your best.

  You will carry on. Others will come on board and the number of your posters will still look good, and all of you will continue to give your talks and associate with each other. But, remember, the ones you disfellowshipped are real people….people who found this place and made it a part their life because they thought they found a group of diverse, open-minded, interesting people they could banter with.

  So, not that anybody cares, but as of today, consider the above post "My Letter of Dissassociation from JWD."

  I feel bad for what happened to your brother. Disfellowshiping is a far cry from what happens here.

  When a person is DFed from the JWs/WTS no one is supposed to associate with them. Certainly not at the KH but basically anywhere - on the street, in homes, at work. They are considered disgusting, dirty and dangerous. And the decision to DF a person can be not only a wide range of taboo written in the pages of WT litterature but also all those unspoken rules that shit like sand on the seashore.

  Restrictions here on JWD are a very different thing. Here you can smoke, drink, use whatever to get high, mellow out or whatever. You can sit at your computer wearing anything you want -- or even nothing at all. You can talk to people on the board, on other boards, on the street. You can welcome them into your home or talk to them from or at work.

  There aren't a lot of written rules here. They all boil down to respect for yourself and others. Granted JWs don't learn a lot about self-respect or respect for others. They just learn obedience to Mother WTS.

  Simon has created a room in "home" and welcomed posters. If you don't like it here you are free to leave. Trying to "work" the mods against each other won't work too well.

  And no one will tell a poster here not to talk to you elsewhere on the net or by email, by phone, or in person.

  A NOTE:

  Too often there is a long list of "chances" given to people. There have been PMs and sometimes emails back and forth. There have been posts made in ADMIN so that we can discuss various issues. Believe me it isn't like a judicial committee. We actually do listen to what the issues are.

  Sometimes we see that the posters on the board have already seen the problem and let us know where it is. So the poll of public opinion makes our job a little bit easier. We do appreciate that
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  caliber

  JourneyOn,

  A spiritual experience is more like an extension of consciousness or interconnectedness with a universal flow of spiritual energy, and usually involves existential questions of meaning and purpose. You feel an expanded awareness and a kind of transendence that results in a feeling of personal spiritual growth, perhaps bringing new meaning or a clearer understanding of something

  The above is from one of your recent posts , please just take some time away til this message of new understanding

  is understood by you .... I can't add much about your posts that hasn't already been said but to agree with their

  sentiments ! The greatest minds and deepest hearts are those most deeply hurt ! I care as I believe hundreds

  of others do on this site .

  Caliber
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  journey-on

  For those who sent pm's: Thank You. I so appreciate the personal words.

  Lady Lee: You missed the point. I, of course, know JW disfellowshipping is not the same thing. This is about me standing up and saying something when I perceive an injustice has been done, unlike what I wish I had done for my brother way back then to the elders. What I was trying to say is that I can't watch a bigoted scenario unfold right before me, and sit back and say nothing. You can say anything you choose to say as a moderator of this site. If you get paid for doing this, and I assume you do, well, of course, you are protecting your "job". You can make people THINK someone disregarded warning after warning. Because, really, there is no way to disprove that assertion, but I am choosing to say that an injustice was done out of a blatant bigoted downright hateful, revengeful, spiteful, prejudice against someone because "he's not one of us." (He was too "something" that the owner of this site didn't like....plain and simple) Someone mentioned "the powers that be." Well, that "power", imo, has displayed a gross misuse of it, and in his own words says he doesn't care. I can't trust a person like that. I can't feel free to dissent when a person like that has "the power" to humiliate a poster by simply pushing "deleted." It sucks to feel so suppressed.
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  Bring_the_Light

  I'd like full disclosure of all action taken by the moderators. Don't leave, dude, surrendering to perceived injustice when you're surrounded by litterally thousands of people who understand what freedom of speech and thought doesn't make any sense. The cure to bad or objectionable speech is more speech not censorship. Bring_the_Light
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  Jringe01

  I can certainly see the point. Yes there are similarities between your brother's disfellowshipping and posters being restricted...however that's all they are is similarities.

  It's more than likely there are issues here that you are not privy to.

  Standing up for someone you think wrongly accused is admirable but disassociating yourself is not the way to go about it. If you honestly believe an injustice has been done then speak out, say something, start a discussion about it.

  By disassociating yourself you are helping to cover up the issue and if it's a real injustice then your helping to cover up a crime. If indeed the reason for resticting the posters was unjust then by walking away you've become an appeaser, another Neville Chamberlain.

  If you believe that an injustice has been committed then fight for what you believe in. If you're not willing to stand up to this percieved injustice then how bad is it really?
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  mouthy

  If you leave us,,,You are doing the D/F to me.... I enjoy your contributions to this site.

  I have no idea what the trouble was. Hope I was NOT involved in any of the hard feelings. Please dont go!!!!

  Mouthy
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  journey-on

  For God's sake man, what do you think I'm doing?

  If you honestly believe an injustice has been done then speak out, say something, start a discussion about it.