Europe must stand up to Islam NOW

by B_Deserter 89 Replies latest jw experiences

  • amicus
    amicus

    It seems to me the world would be a better place if all organized religions were gone.

    W

    This world would be a better place without Diety worship...

    I dislike entering into some of these discussions as they are ultimately pointless. I too believe the world would be better off without organized religion. Individual worship of a Diety seems pretty harmless though. If there really were an all powerful God, couldn't he or she cause all humans to become aware of this and follow the same rules without the aid of some human potentate?

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    If there really were an all powerful God, couldn't he or she cause all humans to become aware of this and follow the same rules without the aid of some human potentate?

    AND exactly where is this "all powerful God" somehow he has lost his tongue...

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    ZeroBrain,

    Please read posts carefully before responding to them Zeroday! HS
    I have a better idea why don't you shove it up your ass...

    Don't blame me because your reading comprehension could be bettered by a blind squirrel. HS

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    I dislike entering into some of these discussions as they are ultimately pointless. I too believe the world would be better off without organized religion. Individual worship of a Diety seems pretty harmless though. If there really were an all powerful God, couldn't he or she cause all humans to become aware of this and follow the same rules without the aid of some human potentate?

    I don't have a problem with individual worship of a Diety either. The problems start when people try to impose their beliefs on others. For some reason I can't understand, people feel the need to worship as a group. Maybe they need validation. If there is an all powerful God, he or she is either deliberately keeping people confused or has very poor communication skills. W

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    If there is an all powerful God, he or she is either deliberately keeping people confused or has very poor communication skills. W

    OR doesn't exist which seems the logical conclusion...

  • brinjen
    brinjen
    If there is an all powerful God, he or she is either deliberately keeping people confused or has very poor communication skills. W
    OR doesn't exist which seems the logical conclusion...

    No argument there... personally I'm a Pastafarian.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex
    The pilots were devout christians who felt they would be rewarded in heaven if successful. That's chrisitanity.

    With all due respect, my understanding is that fundamentalist Muslims believe that if killed in battle, (i.e., suicide) one is immediately transferred into heaven. While there is a similarity to Christianity, there is a somewhat different belief system in place. Would you not agree?

    Additionally, I found this:

    Many kamikaze pilots offered themselves as volunteers for the mission. They were usually very young, between 18 and 24 years old. Their belief was that dying when striking the enemies of Japan and the Emperor down was a very honorable death. This principle was traditional since the days of the samurai, and gave great importance to the sense of duty and obedience. This idea was called Giri ("Right Reason"), and was part of the code of conduct of the Japanese warriors since the Middle Ages, the Bushido. Many young men sacrificed themselves by their free will because these beliefs and their love for the home land were the most important things for them.

    Again there is a similarity to the idea of Christian self-sacrifice, although I do not think Jesus Christ taught the idea in connection with the state, or in connection with a king.

    The difference being Christians believe their "God of Love" will do the destroying, Islam (radical) believe they are doing the destroying in Gods name...

    It comes to the same thing doesn't it? Most religions teach that only their particular franchise is the one, "true accepted" religion, the only one that God accepts. This has been true throughout human history. It's part of the spin that religious leaders use to get people to buy into their message, give money and time and perpetuate the franchise. Little difference between that and a McDonald's franchise frankly.

    You're talking the difference between McDonald's and Burger King. As if one were superior to the other. When both are fatty, greasy, and when eaten exclusively, bad for your health.

    Look at the history of Christianity. A thousand years ago, if the Crusaders had AK-47s, or tanks, or explosives, or (God forbid) nuclear weapons, would they have behaved any differently than Muslim fundamentalists do now?

    I have a better idea why don't you shove it up your ass...

    Well that's an intelligent response. Whatcha got next? Gonna drop the big F bomb to prove your point?

  • amicus
    amicus
    AND exactly where is this "all powerful God" somehow he has lost his tongue...

    I think I misunderstood you Zero, If so I apologize.

    I agree with this statement of yours, unfortunately there seems to be plenty of folks around who think that they have found this lost tongue, much to the detriment of those who don't agree.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    :shakes fist at Europe: "Do you hear me, Europe? RIGHT.FU(#ING.NOW!!"

  • zeroday
    zeroday
    I agree with this statement of yours, unfortunately there seems to be plenty of folks around who think that they have found this lost tongue, much to the detriment of those who don't agree.

    Funny thing really my born again sister and her husband claim GOD has actually talked to them an I asked them why would God speak to Believers and not speak to me an Atheist who do you think would be more impressed them or me...

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