Thankyou for your kind words Babayaga. My early (and continual) experience was with aboriginal Australians. I used to ask questions about spiritual matters, only to be given vague answers or silence. After a period of time, a story may be told but again I would ask for detail, only to receive a quizzical look and more silence. Or I would be taken to a sacred place without being told and my reaction observed. I can look back and laugh at myself now because I realise they were opening doors of possibility and I was immediately slamming them shut again. They are very patient people....
Mystics don't talk about their experiences.
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catbert
Babayaga,
You said: "But my belief is that the physical form, while a wonderous gift I can taste and smell and feel with, is, in some ways, unnecessary."
Do you believe that your "spirit" is the real you, it is your consciousness, it will remember what is happening to you now when it moves on
after death?
My previous comment about squeezing your brain... believe it or not was not intended to have any innuendo.
I have accepted that all my thoughts, any intelligence I have, is all in my head. The proof for me is what happens
to peoples intelligence and thought processes when they experience physical damage to their brain. And the point I was
trying to make with the squeezing comment was that your reality can be modified with physical manipulation. -
Sirona
Catbert
The proof for me is what happens
to peoples intelligence and thought processes when they experience physical damage to their brain.Have you read "The man who mistook his wife for a hat" by Oliver Sacks?
Fascinating book about the effects of brain damage.
Sirona
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BabaYaga
doofdaddy said, "Thankyou for your kind words Babayaga. My early (and continual) experience was with aboriginal Australians...I would be taken to a sacred place without being told and my reaction observed. I can look back and laugh at myself now because I realise they were opening doors of possibility and I was immediately slamming them shut again. They are very patient people...."
What awesome experiences, DoofDaddy! That sounds just beautiful. Perhaps the fact that you are looking back and laughing now means that it worked.
catbert said, "Babayaga, Do you believe that your "spirit" is the real you, it is your consciousness, it will remember what is happening to you now when it moves on after death?"
Short answer: Yes. Bit longer answer: I believe all of us "borrow" a bit of spirit to animate us through this life. When our body gives up, that spirit gets stirred back into the big tasty stew of souls. That portion of spirit which inhabited the body remembers that one physical, earthly life and that one existance for a while... but the more it gets stirred back into the whole, the less it matters, and the less it "remembers" the trivialities that composed this life.
Catbert: "My previous comment about squeezing your brain... believe it or not was not intended to have any innuendo."
Oh, heavens, I know that... *grin*. But the unintended implication was just so damned adorable. I couldn't help myself.
Catbert: "I have accepted that all my thoughts, any intelligence I have, is all in my head. The proof for me is what happens to peoples intelligence and thought processes when they experience physical damage to their brain."
Guess what... we could both be right. Yes, it is all in our heads. But I see the brain as a doorway, not as a dead-end.
I think it is high-time this video was posted again (and thanks to the original poster, this is a magnificent thing to watch.)
Quick introduction: Neuroanatomist Jill Bolte Taylor had an opportunity few brain scientists would wish for: One morning, she realized she was having a massive stroke. As it happened -- as she felt her brain functions slip away one by one, speech, movement, understanding -- she studied and remembered every moment. This is a powerful story about how our brains define us and connect us to the world and to one another.
Enjoy. (It does take a while to load.)
http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229
Jill Bolte Taylor: My Stroke of Insight.
Sirona said, "Have you read "The man who mistook his wife for a hat" by Oliver Sacks?"
Sirona is right, Catbert, this is a MARVELOUS book. I recommend anything by Oliver Sacks, "An Anthropologist on Mars" is also incredible. -
BurnTheShips
I am a spiritual being having a physical experience
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BabaYaga
Burn said, "I am a spiritual being having a physical experience."
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catbert
Baba,
As God is my witness, I was going to post a link to that Jill Bolte Taylor yesterday as support
for my position that we are machines. When the machine breaks, we experience the delusion of spiritual
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BabaYaga
Ah! But who is qualified to say it is a delusion? *wink*
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catbert
>Ah! But who is qualified to say it is a delusion? *wink*
The gray alien that was doing genetic experiments on our ancestors, thats who. -
BabaYaga
*dOh!*
