sweetstuff, there ARE ecological fanatics!
E.G: The fanatics that would throw paint at my wife, just because she's wearing a fur coat!
P.S. the governing body thrives on this stuff too, to proove their cataclismic prophecies
Global Warming lie -don't be brainwashed 2008 Australia's Coldest winter???
by Witness 007 54 Replies latest jw experiences
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Big Tex
Planetary temperature shifts are measured in hundreds, if not thousands, of years. The Little Ice Age lasted only 400-500 years and that was considered a small, temporary change. One winter, or even a decade or two, of change either way is not enough to show long-term temperature shifts.
It is possible the planet is reverting to temperatures before the Little Ice Age. It is also possible that the excessive use of carbon-based fuel has indeed begun to change the weather patterns. Personally I would think pumping hundreds of millions of tons of pollution into the atmosphere, land and ocean every year would begin to make an impact sooner or later.
It is my understanding that, at present, we just don't have enough data to say for certain either way.
Chris
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Tyrone van leyen
Cameo, thanks for mentoning Haarp. Very worthy of mention. It's not just a theory. It exists. I was refering more to Tesla's way of splitting the earth in two, using the magnetic force. I'm not sure how it works, I can't remeber, but I read things as such, and don't think they should be taken away, from the big picture. Tesla's work was so sensitive and so vast the military still holds silent on many of his patents.
I've always found it strange that everyone knows about Einstein, and yet in all honsety, on the the picture, of sheer constant creaivity, I think Tesla may have been the greatest mind of the century.
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stillajwexelder
you are preaching to the choir here
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TheOldHippie
Witness 007 and you others, how stupid can you get? Don't you know the global warming is on the NORTHERN hemisphere?
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Black Sheep
"Most scientists now accept global warning."
If you read what they say carefully, you will find that most of these 'most scientists' insert 'escape clauses' into what they say in much the same manner as the WT does.
One thing many of them do agree on is that eventually earth will be swallowed up by its dying sun.
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Witness 007
Pick up any good Weather research book and an "idiot" can see that Global weather over the last 500,000 years has been a "Hot" and "Cold" roller coaster.....this is not new people wake up....were the Dinosuars burning un-leaded fuel to cause this? No it was nature....this is what many weather experts are saying, is this part of another cyle......for Godsake some of you need to read a book.
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inrainbows
Here are the statements in this thread that show the people making them need to do some research and get a more up-to-date and/or accurate view on climate change.
remember the graph in "that" documentary showing temps. going up?
The hockey stick graph has been revised with new data and as models got more accurate. Still shows climate change in the direction of a warmer world
Well not this year temps.are going down with Melbourne Australia {and many other countries} recording the "coldest winter IN TEN YEARS."
One swallow does not a summer make. Nor does one bad year (with the reasons for the bad weather known - El nina) means that all of sudden the climate isn't getting warmer.
So is the hype all true? Yes temps. rise and they fall, but is polution to blame? Some Scientist say this is a cycle that has repeated for thousands of years. Like the "Mini-ice age" in 1700 when there was "no summer" or the melting of the ice-age.
But if you did some research instead of saying 'gawd-dang it, it's been a bad summer them rascally scientists must have this climate change things all wrong' you would realize that the VAST majority of qualified scientists agree climate is happening.
who's qualified enough to say for sure whats going on ,we're only living in a single grain of time
But the predictions are based on what we KNOW the temperatures and levels of CO2 were like over hundreds of thousands of years, not just on historic records. So, yes, there are people qualified enough to say to 95% degree of probability what is going on.
Tyrone; pseudoscience in a discussion about a scientifically verified phenomena? Wild claims Tyrone, back 'em up.
One question we should ask ourselves as ex cult members is, 'is the scientific group I am basing my belief in using the same mind control tactics as the WT?'
Apples and oranges. JW's have no evidence; they use mind-control to make people accept OPINION. Scientists have proof to a high degree of certainty climate change is caused by man. And no one (not even those who dispute it is man made change) really dispute that it is happening; there is too much evidence.
His mansion uses more energy (in a month) -VS- what I use in a year combined (house and auto).
Does that mean the Earth isn't getting warmer?
This is really funny; any of you guys got a science degree? Any of you read in depth scientific publications on climate change?
All this shows is the power of disinformation; until recently the US government and major industrial concerns were engaged in a massive campaign to deny climate change or at least dispute its causes.
Recently this has changed and virtually any one with an informed opinion is accepting not only climate change but that it is caused by man.
However, a decade of disinformation is sloshing around the Internet doing what it was designed to do; make those without sufficient scientific understanding to understand, or without the will to research the subject at depth themselves as a lay person, believe that climate change is disputed and or not caused by man.
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Tyrone van leyen
Hmm, well I'm not sure what to prove. I am just taking data like everyone else and making a best guess, like the weatherman does every day.
Processional cycles can be easily measured astronomically. Astrlogy is just an easier way to label the movements and cycles. Each cycle takes over 12000 years, before the realignmnet of the planets. This aways ushers in the new age. Which will next be aquarios.
As I mentioned earlier even the Mayans calculated the end of the next processional cycle to be Dec. 23 2012. The end of the world. I don't know.
As the planetary allignment nears. The obvious effects of gravitational pull from the other planets will start to take effect,a few years beforehand, leading to great disasters even before the full cycle ends.
There is not much planetary history going past 6000 years. The only thing we have is the tale of Atlantis, and we do know the ice age ended about 10,000 years ago. The arctic is now melting. Could this be the begining of the pole shift? Recently, the Tsunami in Indonesia, that took tens of thosands of lives was triggered, by an underwater quake that sent a fault line 800miles across the ocean floor and some 40 ft. high in places. Thats major geological change if you ask me.
As for the forces of magnetism, well I'm not a scientist. Don't claim to be. I can however post a few links if desired that explain HAARP technology, and Vid links to Telsla and Einstein.
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inrainbows
Tyrone
Hmm, well I'm not sure what to prove.
And I am not surprised given what you were talking about
I am just taking data like everyone else and making a best guess, like the weatherman does every day.
That's not guessing. That's forecasting. Guess is what lay people do when they stick their head out the window. Forecasting is what meteorologists do with lots of science. They can still be wrong... but a daily forecast is not as accurate or reliable as a clear multi-decennial trend.
Processional cycles can be easily measured astronomically.
Which is a science.
Astrlogy
Which is not.
By all means conflate neurology (science) with phrenology (rubbish); it's the same as you are doing here. By all means prove the scientific accuracy of astrology.
As I mentioned earlier even the Mayans calculated the end of the next processional cycle to be Dec. 23 2012. The end of the world. I don't know.
No, you don't. Because you're using stone-age astrological mumbo-jumbo. Do you know the statistical likelihood of a prediction about the end of the world coming true? Based on all the previous ones?
As the planetary allignment nears. The obvious effects of gravitational pull from the other planets will start to take effect,a few years beforehand, leading to great disasters even before the full cycle ends.
All of this can be calculated down to fine degrees of accuracy. And no one can show any indication that anything will happen based on facts. This is new age bollocks version of 1975.
There is not much planetary history going past 6000 years.
Human history you mean. There's lots of planetary history which is why we can be sure the wild speculation you're dabbling in is just that. Wild speculation.
The only thing we have is the tale of Atlantis,
The MYTH of Atlantis.
and we do know the ice age ended about 10,000 years ago.
Errr, 12,000, but whatever...
The arctic is now melting. Could this be the begining of the pole shift?
No, the Pole shift is when the EU open boarders agreements results in lots of Poles moving to where they get better paid work.
Recently, the Tsunami in Indonesia, that took tens of thosands of lives was triggered, by an underwater quake that sent a fault line 800miles across the ocean floor and some 40 ft. high in places. Thats major geological change if you ask me.
No, that's ongoing geological change and NOTHING to do with the precession of the equinoxes.
Just because JW's make fools of themselves by linking happen-chance to Biblical prophecy doesn;t mean it's a good idea to imitate them; they linked earth quakes to their predictions; didn't you learn?
Don't bother with HAARP and the nut job web sites about Tesla. It's not your fault you don't have the scientific background to see it for what it is. I don't get why you can't find the reliable and obviously more credible refutations of the real rubbish as easily as you can find the rubbish...