If an average-looking rich man pulls up in a rolls royce, and a cute poor man rides by on a bicycle, I will probably assume that the rich man is a snob. I will probably think the poor guy on a bicycle is adorable and sweet.
Just for kicks, let's pretend both of these men live halfway across the country from me and that I met both on the internet.
Now if the rich man starts writing me poetry, sends me on trips, and lavishes attention on me, I might turn my head. Even if he's ugly. If the cute poor guy says he's interested but doesn't call regularly, seems afraid of commitment, and generally thinks a few minutes of attention a day is "enough," I'll wish that things were different but I'll end up going off into the sunset with the ugly rich guy. Because the rich guy would pick up his life and move to be near me, but the poor guy would not. And the rich guy would gloat that he "won" me from the poor guy.
And then, a few years down the road, I'll wake up and realize that I'm miserable, that money buys cold material objects, and that the lack of physical attraction to the rich guy is killing me to my very soul. Because he may lavish attention on ME, but he's rude and arrogant to the rest of the world. I'll look longingly back on my pauper and wish I had given him more of a chance. Then one day I'll contact him again, and find out he's single, and start talking to him regularly, and I'll discover that he's just very shy and afraid of change, but that he's always been interested in me and knew that someday I'd be back. I'll understand him so much better and realize that what I thought was disinterest in the past was really a complete misunderstanding; that his love may not be flashy and romantic, but it's solid and lasting.
And then I'll separate from my rich S.O.B. of a husband, but then the economy will tank, and I won't be able to find a job, and I'll discover that even though my pauper has waited for me for twelve years, that I STILL can't be with him because I can't find a job to move close to him!
Richer men are more attractive than poor men.
by mtsgrad 89 Replies latest jw friends
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halcyon
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SixofNine
"In fact, unconditional love, by its very nature, means that its basis has nothing to do with the object of that love. "
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I tend to agree. Whenever anyone tries to describe or define "love", they seem to be trying to describe or define a feeling. Whenever anyone tries to describe "unconditional love", they seem to me to be describing a decision.
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purplesofa
If a man being rich is more attractive to you than a man not, then a rich man will always be more attractive.
As far as unconditional love, we can and probably do love all on the planet unconditionally.
We make the most concessions for our children.
We then put conditions on who we will marry, like Sweetstuff said he could not go for the ugly guy as she liked sex. One of her conditions for having sex with a man is he has to be attractive to her physically. Each person has their unique conditions as to what is attractive to them physically.
I recall when I first verbalized and knew I loved someone unconditionally. We were on the beach in California and I said, I love you, I just do, you don't have to do anything for it.
I realized I mostly felt that way about people.
Then we have our rules and guidelines for friendships, lovers, spouses, acquantances, of how close they mesh with our own selves.
To love others unconditionally, we must learn to love our own selves that way first.
I know someone could explain this better or maybe I am just off my rocker!!!!
You can love someone very deeply and not love what they do.
As in the case of your children. referring to JohnDoe's comment about kids.
six said
I tend to agree. Whenever anyone tries to describe or define "love", they seem to be trying to describe or define a feeling. Whenever anyone tries to describe "unconditional love", they seem to me to be describing a decision.
I agree, and we can decide to love everyone unconditionally, that does not mean we love and everything they do.
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John Doe
I'll take it a step further--to say you love someone unconditionally discounts their value as a person, because you're implying your love has nothing to do with them. Furthermore, you're implying you love them even though they don't deserve it. If they do deserve it, why does "unconditional" even enter into the question? Such a statement is self aggrandizing and uncomplimentary, to say the least.
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John Doe
Think of it this way. Which would you rather hear? "I love you no matter how lousy an sob you are" or, "I love you because you're funny, you smart, you're a good person, you make me happy, you make me want to be a better person," etc. etc.
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dinah
Must admit I didn't read the entire thread.......
Flyin', you are just looking for someone to have your back in life. You will never find anything that is even close to your Andy. Cherish him!
Money cannot buy happiness (arghhhhh so cliche), but the search for money can make you shallow. I would rather have a poor man who loves me with all his heart, than a rich man with several women on the side.
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purplesofa
I'll take it a step further--to say you love someone unconditionally discounts their value as a person, because you're implying your love has nothing to do with them. Furthermore, you're implying you love them even though they don't deserve it. If they do deserve it, why does "unconditional" even enter into the question? Such a statement is self aggrandizing and uncomplimentary, to say the least.
Think of it this way. Which would you rather hear? "I love you no matter how lousy an sob you are" or, "I love you because you're funny, you smart, you're a good person, you make me happy, you make me want to be a better person," etc. etc.
I say, I love you at the core of who you are, it's not about whether someone is deserving or not. I don't think I am discounting their attributes at all.
What I hear you saying is, In order for me to love you I need you to be funny, smart, a good person, make me happy, because of you I am a better person.
Which is fine and you can compliment them as they have filled the conditions to warrent your love.
purps
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LouBelle
LDH - it is my opinion, Perhaps I should have put the word 'probably' in there somewhere, because I know not all rich people would do that. Opinion gleaned from seeing rich men and women treat there spouses terribly, with little freedom. You are of course free to have your differing opinion.
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whyizit
I've never really been able to see it, but I have a friend that swears ANY man looks great in the glow of a 2009 Jaguar they just paid cash for!