If - and it is a biog if - they stop counting time - it would mean virtually EVERYTHING Ray Franz suggested in Crisis of Conscience has come true
NEW KM style
by stillajwexelder 101 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Awakened at Gilead
Something big is afoot.... turning in time on the 20th and eliminating monthly reports in the KM.. Has anyone seen the YB or the 2/15 WT yet? Will the annual reports be next?
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besty
Something big is afoot
My criteria for big:
- Rescind their claim to be Gods sole channel
- Reverse the partial blood ban
- Cease extreme shunning
Anything else is just rhetorical semantics, or as we say in Scotland - pish.
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JimmyPage
The style of the KM has changed? Surely Armageddon is near.
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slimboyfat
There has already been movement in this direction when you think about it. You used to have to fill in a report for each Bible Study conducted. They dropped that a few years ago now I think. And now reports don't need to be collected until the 20th of the month?
Yeah it looks to me like they are preparing to get rid of reporting time altogether.
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Mickey mouse
Has anyone seen the YB or the 2/15 WT yet? Will the annual reports be next?
We have the 2/15 WT and the annual report is not in there. The only place it can be now is the Yearbook; I haven't seen that yet.
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slimboyfat
I think it was dropped from the WT last year already and put into the KM instead.
The Yearbook is the only place left. If it gets removed from there in years to come then that's it gone completely.
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Mickey mouse
Last year they said it would be in the Kingdom Ministry. It's not in either January or February's issue this year.
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slimboyfat
I think it was a couple of years ago they announced it, and that it actually was in the Jan or Feb 2008 KM and not in any 2008 WT.
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dozy
I don’t think the change to the 20 th is especially significant in itself. Nowadays cong reports in most countries are filled in online , so you don’t need to allow for postal delays , “lost in the post” reports that need to be chased up by Bethel or negligent secretaries who always missed the deadline. Informally the service desk (at least in the UK) didn’t start collating the figures till the middle of the month anyway, as there were always a few stragglers.
If (and it is a big if) they are stopping reports altogether , then that is a big change. As many have suggested , the discipline of doing so does force many to go out , as per the number who go out on the last day of the month. The WTS would be loath to give up this procedure , even though it has absolutely no scriptural basis (if anything , it is against the scriptures). I’m convinced that the only trigger for this would be a change in the legal basis , ring fencing the WTS from any legal obligation towards the majority of Jws.
To paint an analogy , if a spectator punches you at a football match , you have no case for suing the club or stadium owner (unless some negligence can be proven - very difficult to do). But if a volunteer ( eg a club steward or burger flipper ) does likewise , you have a valid , easily provable claim.
Define a volunteer. Even though unpaid , he directly receives instructions from the club. He reports his activity to the club on a regular basis & accrues benefits from it.
At a stroke , the WTS removes any obligation - legally , socially - from the majority of it’s members. No doubt office bearers (such as elders & Bethelites) would still (legally) have volunteer status. Pioneers are a bit of a grey area but they are (supposedly) appointed directly from the branch and the WTS turned the legal basis in the past against pioneers and successfully DF them.
OK now. 2010 - little Johnny is being abused by a R&F JW Bro Paedo. His parents go to the courts to seek redress. The WTS lawyers successfully argue that the individual was simply someone who attended the meetings , perhaps on a irregular basis. He wasn’t a member / shareholder / stakeholder / employee / volunteer of the WTS. Though he did go on a Christian ministry , this was as a member of the local congregation & there wasn’t any connection whatsoever with this activity and the incorporated body of the WTS. “We have no record of him , we aren’t responsible for him.”
This begs the question - how do the WTS now “police” individual Jws & ensure that they are going out? The onus is much more on the Group Overseer (GO) (I forget the new title) to ensure that he is very familiar with the activity of his flock. In the past , brothers could go to other arrangements or out with family & hardly ever work with their group. The GO needs to determine who is going out , when , how much - especially if he doesn’t see them going out with the group. A simple summary of activity at the end of the month - total number of who was out in his group - would be all that was needed.