Being Prejudiced

by purplesofa 68 Replies latest jw friends

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  beksbks

  Do you think there are any racist scientists?

  Oh probably, I just mean we can get the message from many sources. That's why I added my bit.

  I still say the number one reason for prejudice is ignorance.
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  FlyingHighNow

  My dad was an oceanographer who was a staunch evolutionist. Amongst his scientist friends there was this belief that the brain was smaller in African peoples. The proof they said was that the part of the skull which held the brain was smaller. Then there is eugenics. Evolution can be used to justify things like the master race of Nazi dreams.
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  snowbird

  You must not be talking about the old testament.

  The Old Testament has a lot to say about how we should treat each other.

  Parallel translations of Deuteronomy 23:7 with cross references.

  New American Standard Bible(©1995) "You shall not detest an Edomite, for he is your brother; you shall not detest an Egyptian, because you were an alien in his land. GOD'S WORD® Translation(©1995) Never consider the Edomites disgusting. They're your relatives. Never consider the Egyptians disgusting. You once were foreigners living in their country. King James Bible Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. American King James Version You shall not abhor an Edomite; for he is your brother: you shall not abhor an Egyptian; because you were a stranger in his land. American Standard Version Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a sojourner in his land. Bible in Basic English But have no hate for an Edomite, because he is your brother, or for an Egyptian, for you were living in his land. Douay-Rheims Bible Thou shalt not abhor the Edomite, because he is thy brother: nor the Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. Darby Bible Translation Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother. Thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a sojourner in his land. English Revised Version Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. Webster's Bible Translation Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite, for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian, because thou wast a stranger in his land. World English Bible You shall not abhor an Edomite; for he is your brother: you shall not abhor an Egyptian, because you lived as a foreigner in his land. Young's Literal Translation Thou dost not abominate an Edomite, for thy brother he is; thou dost not abominate an Egyptian, for a sojourner thou hast been in his land; Geneva Study Bible Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.

  Genesis 25:24 When her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb. Exodus 22:21 "You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Exodus 23:9 "You shall not oppress a stranger, since you yourselves know the feelings of a stranger, for you also were strangers in the land of Egypt. Leviticus 19:34 'The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 10:19 "So show your love for the alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt. Obadiah 1:10 "Because of violence to your brother Jacob, You will be covered with shame, And you will be cut off forever. (NASB ©1995)
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  John Doe

  re Deuteronomy 23:7:

  Very nice sentiments. Very politically correct. But let us call a spade a spade. This parasha [weekly Pentateuchal reading] contains laws that are racist. An Ammonite or a Moabite may not come into the assembly of the Lord, namely assimilate himself to the Jewish people. Such a one is, by virtue of his ethnic background excluded for ever. This is racism, pure and simple. Edomites and Egyptians were subject to a less severe rule, but it is racist nevertheless. The third generation lost the stigma of belonging to a special excluded group. Till then, they too were excluded.
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  John Doe

  How do you justify Israelites being god's chosen people and god advocating taking the land of Canaan and raping and pillaging the inhabitant's and their possessions and all other manner of nastiness? Yeah, no room for prejudice against those gentiles who aren't god's chosen people and whom you're going to murder and steal the land from, huh.
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  snowbird

  John Doe, you ought to be ashamed of yourself!

  You know full well that the Ammonites and Moabites were excluded because of their animosity toward the fledgling nation of Israel.

  The color of their skin had nothing to do with it.

  Sheesh!

  Sylvia
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  John Doe

  I'm not the one who should be ashamed Sylvia. I'm not the one elevating a pompous, egotistical, misogynist, fairy tale book full of lies to a place of authority in people's lives.
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  snowbird

  Whhhhaaaatttt ever!

  Sylvia
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  dinah

  Since I was blackballed literally (couldn't resist that one, sorry), I know what I'm talkin' bout.

  White racists will "feel each other out" to see if you feel the same. They tip-toe around like the cowards they are.

  I actually went through a period when I hated white people. Seriously, hated them. Chalk that one up to teenage agnst. I'm over it.

  BUT when I married my first husband (a black man from Alabama--boy did we have some BALLS), I always would hear whispers......She's too beautiful to be married to a *insert racial slur we all hate*, or I thought she was smart, or I thought she was better than that. You cannot tell me to this day that had I been involved with a worldly white man I woulda gotten a slap on the wrist instead of a big ol DF. Somehow my being seen with a black man made me look immoral. That is seriously messed up!
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  sammielee24

  We ended our conversation.......It's rough when people are prejudiced against those that are not prejudiced.

  Unfortunately that's life and you can only live yours without prejudice in the belief and hope that we will all at some point work toward none.

  In this context it is about race - but rest assured, that I've felt the tentacles of religious prejudice, cultural prejudice, gender and social. Those are important as well since the prejudice at one level often exists on many others. Inside each culture there exists another sub culture with it's own set of prejudices - and it's all over the world.

  sammieswife.