I Find NY Post Cartoon Insensitive, If Not Downright Offensive

by snowbird 45 Replies latest social current

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Nellie,

    My guess would be that the location might say something like Washington DC or District of Columbia (Which is not the same as the Columbia in South America).

    Probably you would benefit from knowing more about what took place in the Connecticut Chimpanzee killing. It occurred outdoors, right after the chimp attacked the police car. So the setting for the shooting is shown correctly.

    The caption in the cartoon is "They'll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill." We all know Obama didn't write the first stimulus bill, he merely signed it. One of the authors of the stimulus bill is Nancy Pelosi, who has shown herself to possess an intellect of simian proportions.

    (Recall Nancy Pelosi's comment about how every month 500 million Americans will lose their jobs. The present population of the USA is only about 304 million, so every month ALL Americans will lose their jobs, plus 196 million other jobs; probably moonlighting at QuickieMart. THAT is the kind of simian intelligence we need leading our government today.)

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    From an ideological point of view, intention is practically beside the point. Meaning is created in the interpretive interaction between a reader and the text produced by an author; the intentional meaning expressed by the author may not necessarily be apprehended by the audience if not communicated well in the writing, and the people interpreting the text are not mind-readers. I know this from experience....in high school I submitted a story in the writing club that was thought to be highly offensive, and I had no idea that it would be taken that way, and it certainly was not my intention. But seeing it from the point of view of the reader, I realized that there was no way the reader could have interpreted the story the way I intended it. So I have no idea what the author here intended, but does it really matter? The job of the editor was to review the piece and deem whether it was suitable and whether it could have caused offense among the readership -- and clearly the editor either failed to see how offensive this cartoon is or endorsed the offensive meaning.

    Analytically I could make a few observations. Texts are polysemeous and may mean different things to different people, or within different situations and contexts -- especially if they contain ambiguous features or characteristics that conflict with a perceived meaning. The cartoonist could have had "Pelosi", "Congress", "Obama", or whatever on the dead chimp's chest (this is the usual convention), but did not; he left the identity open to interpretation. The cartoon juxtaposes two unrelated news stories in a bizarre way -- in just what way is the stimulus bill like the chimpanzee that went on a tragic and wild rampage? Is the cartoonist trying to suggest that the legislation was a violent attack on the US economy and taxpayers, was that the intended point? But that doesn't seem likely since there is nothing that happened that corresponds to what the cartoon actually depicts -- the shooting of the chimpanzee. That makes it harder to relate the two news stories. But it makes partial sense if the cartoon is interpreted as referring to a potential future assassination, as the dead chimp is directly identified as "the one who wrote the stimulus bill". The thought that the cartoonist is talking lightly about assassination alone is cause for offence. But who does the chimp represent and who is being assassinated? The features here are conflicting. It was Congress that wrote the bill, the verb used in the caption, not the President. And yet, it is hard to believe that the cartoon is talking about something so unusual as the assassination of all of Congress, or all the Democrats of Congress, or even the leadership. The victims of assassination tend to be the holders of the Executive Office in common thought; everyone can name at least two if not four or more Presidents that at least have experienced an attempt. And the individuality of the President fits better with the individuality of the chimp than a collective entity like Congress or Congressional Democrats. The popular meme that compared the last President (George W. Bush) with a chimp also reinforces this interpretation, even though Bush is not the President presumed by this interpretation. But what especially reinforces this interpretation are the various racial discourses that also fit well with an interpretation that Obama = the dead chimp. Foremost of these is the long history of whites dehumanizing blacks as apes, monkeys, subhumans (such as the Gollywog cariacture), and so forth. There was the controversy from the campaign of people making T-shirts depicting Obama as Curious George. So the identification of Obama = dead chimp is one promoted by this discourse. Then there is the theme of cops shooting the chimp. This indirectly reinforces the interpretation of chimp= blacks in two ways: first, there is a racial discourse about blacks being more likely to commit violent crime (which is evoked by the implied violence of the chimp against the real-life victim), and second there is the history of police brutality against blacks (which is evoked by the use of lethal force against the chimp and the rather cavalier/jocular remark made by the cops to each other). So in favor of interpreting the dead chimp as Obama, we have 1) the racial discourse of blacks being monkeys and apes, 2) the fact that Obama was depicted by some racists as a monkey in the campaign, 3) the history of police brutality against blacks, 4) the racial discourse of blacks being violent criminals, 5) the theme of assassination more naturally pertaining to the office of President, and 6) the individuality of the chimp being more naturally associated with an individual referrent, such as the President. Against this reading, we have 1) the chimp was depicted as the one who wrote the stimulus bill, and ..... is there anything else? And even this point can be pressed to conform to the Obama interpretation, as Obama did write his name on the bill to sign it into law.

    So whether or not the cartoonist intended the cartoon to refer to Obama, the explanation that makes the most sense of the cartoon's features is the one that interprets the cartoon as referring to Obama -- but this too is problematic. If this is not what the cartoonist intended, he did a poor job in communicating his thought. The cartoonist and the editor in their public statements yesterday also did not apologize or explain what the cartoon was supposed to depict (the cartoonist's statement itself is ambiguous).

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    I`m on dial-up..It took me forever to download Nathans cartoon,so I could see what the fuss was about.........I don`t see an Obama connection there either..It looks like the monkey is Obama`s writer..And..Obama will need a new monkey to write for him..It`s a definite slam at Obama`s Stimulas Bill......But...Comparing Obama to a monkey?..I don`t see it.

    Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    From the cartoonist, Sean Delonas:

    "It's absolutely friggin ridiculous. Do you really think I'm saying Obama should be shot?"

    "I didn't see that in the cartoon. The chimpanzee was a major story in "The Post." Every paper in New York, except 'The New York Times,' covered the chimpanzee story. It's just ridiculous. It's about the economic stimulus bill, and if you're going to make that about anybody, it would be Pelosi, which it's not."

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/18/cnr.06.html

  • StAnn
    StAnn

    I've lived in the South too long not to know that many, many people would see this as racist. Remember years ago, in North or South Carolina, a little AfAm boy went to see Santa Claus at the mall and his family bought the videotape of his visit with Santa? When they got it home and watched it, they heard Santa say to the little boy, "If you ever want to see a little monkey, just look right into the mirror," or something similar. The family sued the mall operators for hiring this pig of a Santa Claus. It is possible that the artist wasn't referring to Obama, but in our culture it should have been obvious to the editor that millions of people might misconstrue the cartoon that way.

    I believe it was a racist attack and they tried to slide it in under cover of the crazy Connecticut chimp.

    Kinda like when Obama made his "lipstick on a pig" comment, which everyone in the audience thought was directed at Sarah Palin, and then he later denied that was his intent.

    StAnn

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Above is the Delonas cartoon for today. While the subject of the cartoon is made to appear to be this Dibble fellow who lost his leg after falling onto NYC subway tracks while drunk and then receiving a $2+ million settlement after a jury heard his case, it is clear to me that the intent of the cartoon is to represent Al Sharpton as a black fire hydrant. After all, the cartoonist is responsible for my interpretation of his work and should know what I would see in it.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    I believe it was a racist attack and they tried to slide it in under cover of the crazy Connecticut chimp.

    First, you have to ask yourself, would the cartoon have been the same if George Bush had signed the stimulus bill instead of Obama? Would he still have used the chimp in his illustration? If the answer is yes, then you can't honestly say the intent was to be racist. I chalk it up to poor judgment.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Both my Black and White friends on this board..In the American South..Have taught me about how different things are there,than I could possibly imagine..I have no doubt they may see that cartoon differently than others..I don`t see that cartoon the same way they do..But then..I don`t live in the South..

    Clint Eastwood...OUTLAW

  • DJK
    DJK

    Very interesting Nathan. I haven't been around the pond enough with Al Sharpton to pick up on the fire hydrant the way you did.

    I'm nearly 53 and I have heard far too many racists jokes. You don't have to be a racist to see some connection. I heard the story of the chimp and I'm familair with the stimulus plan. I saw all of these in the picture. I didn't see an assasination of the president.

    Regarding intent. The New York Times does not hire high school students for anything more than deliveries. The artist has been around long enough, and he spent enough time on the pic to consider how it would be accepted. I'll bet he did and passed it on anyway. Insensitive and criminal IMO.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Of course, there are those who don't see things the way we do. If you haven't been exposed to the racist ignorance that is part of our daily lives, then I don't expect you to do so.

    However, I maintain that the cartoonist knew exactly what he was doing.

    If he'd drawn a depiction of Rahm Emanuel facing officers with swastikas on their sleeves, what do you think the reaction would be?

    Exactly.

    Sylvia

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